The later comments are really interesting, and I think they would merit to be moved to a proper thread, so anyone interested could eventually find and partecipate in the discussion, but it's up to the poster, who is incidentally a mod (and so could move them by himself! )

(2018-01-26, 09:05 AM)spoRv Wrote: The later comments are really interesting, and I think they would merit to be moved to a proper thread, so anyone interested could eventually find and partecipate in the discussion, but it's up to the poster, who is incidentally a mod (and so could move them by himself! )

You could move it here.

https://fanrestore.com/thread-1415.html?...o+delivery

But the conversation is based around the old DHWAV master, and ways of returning to its theatrical colours.
It's still on topic and important to the evolution of the project (maybe!) but I agree it's relevant to much more.
There are very similar conversations going on in here

https://fanrestore.com/thread-1202-post-...l#pid39833

and here

https://fanrestore.com/thread-1968-post-...l#pid40038

Id also like all this information gathered in one thread, but Ive moved threads in the past and it killed the conversation somewhat.
I love this place

I love this place, too (of course)!

Well, maybe copy&paste relevant parts of the latest comments from here into another thread would be the best solution - but I'm too lazy to do that... dear mods, can one of you do that?

(2018-01-26, 10:37 AM)CSchmidlapp Wrote: Id also like all this information gathered in one thread, but Ive moved threads in the past and it killed the conversation somewhat.
I love this place

These threads are like rare orchids lol

(2018-01-26, 03:05 PM)spoRv Wrote: I love this place, too (of course)!

Well, maybe copy&paste relevant parts of the latest comments from here into another thread would be the best solution - but I'm too lazy to do that... dear mods, can one of you do that?

(2018-01-26, 03:22 PM)zoidberg Wrote: These threads are like rare orchids lol

Hahahahahahahaha Like I said

(2018-01-26, 10:37 AM)CSchmidlapp Wrote: I love this place

One of us! One of us!

I also thoroughly enjoy these conversations and don't view them as truly off topic since we all are trying to get to the same place. This DH3 thread is as good a place as any.

Perhaps links in the film to delivery thread so these conversations don't lose context.

(2018-01-26, 03:03 AM)zoidberg Wrote: PDB, I call it printer lights because it's an attempt to at least mimic colour timing but obviously it has nothing to do with printer points as they are based on exposure stops. But basically photochemical colour timing was limited to RGB adjustments and overall density using a Hazeltine optical printer. No shadows/midtones/highlights and definitely no secondary corrections or 'power windows'. A push to blue for example, as TServo mentioned in the T2 thread causes the shadows to turn blue getting progressively paler as you go up to the bright highlights which will still be mostly white. This made me realise that being a subtractive process the negative is essentially acting as a filter or mask, attenuating the light shining through onto the positive film's emulsion (this is also why contrast builds up from o-meg to release print). So I'm basically experimenting with a script that layers an RGB adjusted video over the original video, using the original video's luma as a greyscale mask which decides how much adjustment occurs. Like I said, it's early days and it's just something I'm tinkering away with in the background.

Interesting stuff. This should get it's own thread if you get anywhere with it because I'd like to hear more.

Late model Sony HDCRTs include a monitor mode to remove the inherent red push of CRT and NTSC. It works like a charm and rescues many transfers regardless of age. With the perfect black levels on my 960, it seem to restore some of what is lost from the lack of care in transfer processes to replicate the original printed result.

I think back in the day it would only be your very technical or photographically minded creative talents that would know or even care about stocks and printing. So unless the production had a very knowledgeable and invested cinematographer, producer, director or studio technician I think you were stuck with "well at least its in focus and centered."

Rough test before I go to sleep:

BD/Beber's 35mm Pic/BD Regrade as close as possible to Beber's Pic/BD Regrade+highlights pulled down+50% luma from the BD

Great! I prefer the "plain" BD regrade, it's more filmlike IMHO!

They both look amazing. WOW
I'm going with the BD Regrade+highlights pulled down+50% luma.
It looks as good as the BD Regrade, but retains alittle more detail where highlights get cliped. Perhaps pull down the saturation a tiny bit