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Bilbofett · 2022-06-29, 03:30 PM

(2022-06-29, 10:48 AM)dvdmike Wrote:
(2022-06-28, 02:41 PM)Bilbofett Wrote:
(2022-06-26, 05:09 PM)dvdmike Wrote: Can you please check Heat and Miami Vice

https://www.wowow.co.jp/special/018793

Look here:

This will be in 4k!! on July 22nd... do we have people who can grab this? I'd love this in 4k. Been looking for the rumored Amazon 4k version that was supposed to be on Canada and German Prime... couldn't get my VPN to fake it so I could check.

Can only see the HD versions on DE and CA Amazon, I think this move will sing in 4k as I think it has aged really well

thank you for checking! IMO, the newly done Koch-media (German) versions of Miami Vice 2006 (D.C. and theatrical) using the newer AVC-codec (not the older VC-1) is somewhat 'revelatory' and there is increased color saturation and alot of the digital problems of blurriness and pixelation (especially w/ the artificial digital grain in the night shots) was re-done and fixed.
I think those were made from the new 4k transfer that is a much better version than what's been on blu-ray and on cable/on-demand.
I hope that's the version broadcast on Wowow

https://shop-kochfilms-de.translate.goog...r_hl=en-US

**dvdmike** · 2022-06-29, 05:39 PM

I don't trust Koch one inch, they didn't add grain in the night shots
That was the Genesis doing its thing

Bilbofett · 2022-06-30, 02:56 AM

(2022-06-29, 05:39 PM)dvdmike Wrote: I don't trust Koch one inch, they didn't add grain in the night shots
That was the Genesis doing its thing

I didn't say Koch added grain.
I'm saying the grainy image from the older master looks better now in this new version.
I like grain, I like the grain in the newest version from Koch.
What I (and many viewers didn't like) was the excessively grainy-pixelated image that was the transfer used for the VC-1 version we all know. That wasn't intentional, it was a mistake.

I compared the color-timing of my disc vs. the VC-1 master used on HBO/on-demand. Night and day difference. The first version, the VC-1, was darker, dim, blurry, de-saturated, overall unpleasant.

Collateral was similar. The version that's on the UHD 4k now looks different, and better. The fast motion isn't smearing nearly as much as it did. That may have to do w/ the bit-rate or the codec used prior.

Similar to what looked like a botched transfer (not colored timed? too dark) of FOTR when it came out. They fixed it later.

TLDR; I am hoping that this new 4k transfer is from the newer master used for the AVC version on various media like Koch (its may be the same one used for the new Mill Creek version that comes in a 2-disc that I haven't purchased). I'd be super-surprised if it wasn't. Mann or someone has gone back and fixed a few things. It looks even better now.

**dvdmike** · 2022-06-30, 09:45 AM

I know you wernt saying they added it, I just don't trust them at all.

**zoidberg** · 2022-06-30, 11:40 AM

Don't film remasters have to be supervised or at the very least approved by the Director (so long as they are alive)? I thought this was a DGA rule that came in recently.

You see the odd little anecdote about a Director not being aware of a foreign 4K release but in those cases the DoP has usually been involved

Bilbofett · 2022-06-30, 07:02 PM

(2022-06-30, 11:40 AM)zoidberg Wrote: Don't film remasters have to be supervised or at the very least approved by the Director (so long as they are alive)? I thought this was a DGA rule that came in recently.

You see the odd little anecdote about a Director not being aware of a foreign 4K release but in those cases the DoP has usually been involved

I will go out on a limb and risk saying Mann approved the new transfer, and that was used by Koch to make their discs and hopefully its the exact same thing being broadcast on channel WOWOW late July. Let's all remind each other when it gets closer and make sure someone's capping it!

maksnew · 2022-06-30, 10:57 PM

(2022-06-28, 08:04 PM)Plissken1138 Wrote: Pale Rider is on tomorrow. https://www.wowow.co.jp/detail/011381/001/03

What's the possibility of it being better quality than VC1 Blu Ray?

The recording is ready, tomorrow I will check it and compare it with the official BD. The size turned out not very big, I doubt that there will be something good. I will also say that I do not have the opportunity to record films from a 4K channel, it is too expensive.

Plissken1138 · 2022-07-01, 01:25 AM

(2022-06-30, 10:57 PM)maksnew Wrote:
(2022-06-28, 08:04 PM)Plissken1138 Wrote: Pale Rider is on tomorrow. https://www.wowow.co.jp/detail/011381/001/03

What's the possibility of it being better quality than VC1 Blu Ray?

The recording is ready, tomorrow I will check it and compare it with the official BD. The size turned out not very big, I doubt that there will be something good.

I appreciate the effort!

Bilbofett · 2022-07-01, 05:32 AM

(2022-06-30, 10:57 PM)maksnew Wrote:
(2022-06-28, 08:04 PM)Plissken1138 Wrote: Pale Rider is on tomorrow. https://www.wowow.co.jp/detail/011381/001/03

What's the possibility of it being better quality than VC1 Blu Ray?

The recording is ready, tomorrow I will check it and compare it with the official BD. The size turned out not very big, I doubt that there will be something good. I will also say that I do not have the opportunity to record films from a 4K channel, it is too expensive.

how much is it, if you don't mind?

maksnew · (This post was last modified: 2022-07-01, 03:50 PM by maksnew.)

(2022-06-28, 08:04 PM)Plissken1138 Wrote: Pale Rider is on tomorrow. https://www.wowow.co.jp/detail/011381/001/03

What's the possibility of it being better quality than VC1 Blu Ray?

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