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(2018-05-21, 08:50 PM)Beber Wrote: (2018-05-21, 06:06 PM)PDB Wrote: As for the original Matrix 35mm print vs the old BD/new BD. I'll get the new BD since it looks great but for the more theatrical accurate colors, i'll stick with the 35mm.
Yeah... about that. Here's the thing: the 35mm that was made available to us actually fails in the accuracy department. The lobby scene is in the ballpark, sure. Neo's boss' office, inside and outisde, also check. The truck versus payphone in the beginning, that looks fine, too. But the rest... not so much. The brand new Blu-ray looks way more accurate on top of being a lot better defined and cleaner. There's no contest, in both looking better and accuracy.
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(2018-05-21, 09:02 PM)PDB Wrote: (2018-05-21, 08:50 PM)Beber Wrote: (2018-05-21, 06:06 PM)PDB Wrote: As for the original Matrix 35mm print vs the old BD/new BD. I'll get the new BD since it looks great but for the more theatrical accurate colors, i'll stick with the 35mm.
Yeah... about that. Here's the thing: the 35mm that was made available to us actually fails in the accuracy department. The lobby scene is in the ballpark, sure. Neo's boss' office, inside and outisde, also check. The truck versus payphone in the beginning, that looks fine, too. But the rest... not so much. The brand new Blu-ray looks way more accurate on top of being a lot better defined and cleaner. There's no contest, in both looking better and accuracy.
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Well, my screening experience of a 35mm print is not that old, but whatever. You're obviously entitled to prefer an inaccurate version that calls itself accurate. Fine by me. I, myself, will enjoy the new One over any other possibility available.
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(2018-05-21, 09:20 PM)Beber Wrote: (2018-05-21, 09:02 PM)PDB Wrote: (2018-05-21, 08:50 PM)Beber Wrote: (2018-05-21, 06:06 PM)PDB Wrote: As for the original Matrix 35mm print vs the old BD/new BD. I'll get the new BD since it looks great but for the more theatrical accurate colors, i'll stick with the 35mm.
Yeah... about that. Here's the thing: the 35mm that was made available to us actually fails in the accuracy department. The lobby scene is in the ballpark, sure. Neo's boss' office, inside and outisde, also check. The truck versus payphone in the beginning, that looks fine, too. But the rest... not so much. The brand new Blu-ray looks way more accurate on top of being a lot better defined and cleaner. There's no contest, in both looking better and accuracy.
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Well, my screening experience of a 35mm print is not that old, but whatever. You're obviously entitled to prefer an inaccurate version that calls itself accurate. Fine by me. I, myself, will enjoy the new One over any other possibility available.
No vitriol needed. I don't accept the 35mm as theatrical accurate based on blind faith but empirical evidence. But do enjoy the new BD it looks lovely such as it is.
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Vitriol? And what is the empirical evidence, if I may ask?
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(2018-05-21, 09:38 PM)Beber Wrote: Vitriol? And what is the empirical evidence, if I may ask?
I guess we will never know...
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(2018-05-21, 09:39 PM)PDB Wrote: (2018-05-21, 09:38 PM)Beber Wrote: Vitriol? And what is the empirical evidence, if I may ask?
I guess we will never know...
Well some know...
Oh, so you have none. Bummer. I was excited to see/read something new. I don't know why I even bother testify about the look of a print after a screening if that's the kind of untrustworthy response I get. But fine, I'll keep those experiences for myself now.
Oh, I see that the quote added something that must have been an edit: some know, yeah. I'm part of them. The 35mm v1.0 was wrong, and was "fixed" into a v2.0, but still wrong. Better than 1.0, sure, but still not accurate. I don't know how they messed up twice to obtain these colors, while in some scenes they do look right. Signing off.
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(2018-05-21, 09:53 PM)Beber Wrote: (2018-05-21, 09:39 PM)PDB Wrote: (2018-05-21, 09:38 PM)Beber Wrote: Vitriol? And what is the empirical evidence, if I may ask?
I guess we will never know...
Well some know...
Oh, so you have none. Bummer. I was excited to see/read something new. I don't know why I even bother testify about the look of a print after a screening if that's the kind of untrustworthy response I get. But fine, I'll keep those experiences for myself now.
Oh, I see that the quote added something that must have been an edit: some know, yeah. I'm part of them. The 35mm v1.0 was wrong, and was "fixed" into a v2.0, but still wrong. Better than 1.0, sure, but still not accurate. I don't know how they messed up twice to obtain these colors, while in some scenes they do look right. Signing off.
A little harsh but Ok. Have a better one.
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Yes, I kept the 1.0 on a hard drive.
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Yo guys, the UHD is out in the wild. 
Edit: Sequel remasters announced: https://www.4kfilme.de/matrix-reloaded-r...k-blu-ray/
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Did a quick regrade of of the UHD to the Workprint for this one screen.
I guess I will have to do the entire movie now, because I like how this looks. 
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