2017-06-21, 09:42 AM
Yes saw all three original film on original releases. DH3 is the worst because it's zoomboxed on video. There's some trailers out there that shows more top.
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2017-06-21, 11:45 PM
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2017-06-22, 07:51 PM
The initial US letterboxed release is different from what I remembered. My copy is beat up so I've never really watched it in hopes of getting a better one.
It looks like the French disc. Completely without the overall color tint introduced in the THX master. However I think it may be a different transfer to the French disc as it appears more balanced in its color overall and not as pale. The THX disc resolves color and fine detail better but adds a blanket tint across the entire film that is likely correct but overdone. Also it seems a touch hazy to my eyes. All of this is fixed on the BD which is the same source as the THX master I think and corrects the color tone back to where it should be while providing better blacks. Sometimes it helps to use old masters for BD and be lazy. DH1 and 2 seem to be relatively untouched HD versions of their older counterparts with all the warts removed. So if we can obtain a 35mm sample it should indicate whether the colder/paler look of the older LDs is correct or the later THX or BD look.
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2017-06-22, 10:26 PM
None of those films were correct on THX versions. They were doctored to look good on tube TVs. There is no reasonable prez of how they looked in the theaters.
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2017-06-26, 04:15 PM
It seems the CE version of the DH2 has the closet look to that youtube clip. That is being very blue. So I might use that and waterslides' LD cap as the two versions. Can anyone cap the old US widescreen LD's PCM track? I have the THX capped but want to see if the original is different like DH is.
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2017-07-31, 04:19 PM
I just started an approach to DH2 from a different perspective.
We have all have noticed some 35mm prints on ebay that look a lot different then their home video master equivalent. That is not a surprise. Problem is these prints are too expensive to buy. So I had the thought why not look at the trailers. Sure it's often said that a trailer might not be fully color timed but that doesn't mean that they are wrong all the time. In fact some of the 35mm trailer scans I have seen match 35mm prints pretty well.. So I have been collecting a few 35mm trailers and hand scanning them to see what they look like. Or I was until my computer went belly-up and I had to spend all my money fixing that. Luckily I got a few month into this project before that happened. Anyway the mechanics of this is best lead to another thread I will post but I post here since I did this with DH2. The trailer is this one: And here are a few of the shots from the trailer: [Image: l2JfydL.jpg] You can see this points to the CE's blue as being the most "correct". That DH2 is suppose to have a blue tint oppose to the redder, warmer look the BD has. So I went a little further and took those 35mm shots and the dozens of other shots and created a LUT that reflected them. BD/Regrade [Image: Iswpktb.jpg] Now this is just a rough test and it needs some further adjustments but this uses that 35mm trailer LUT, 30% of the luma from the BD and balanced scopes to remove the red in the highlights. I used a bit of the BD's luma to tame the regrade's heavy contrast look but still keep it 35mm looking. Overall its a more extreme looking version of the CE DVD which I now think is the closest to what DH2 looked like in theaters. Far from perfect but I believe one step closer. It's also interesting to note that this is somewhat the look of DH in 35s also. That in the original they skewed to a cool, blue look. I'll post some other 35mm trailer scans in another thread. Thanks given by:
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