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(2017-12-03, 10:01 AM)Stamper Wrote: Is that a monitor hum I see at 16khz?
Looks that way. I just noticed the same thing in a trailer I was watching. Whenever the voices became louder, this high frequency pheeping came in too. I used to think that this was somehow done on purpose, but with a notch filter to get rid of it, it sounds much better and less painful. Quite fascinating.
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I can confirm, that the 4:3 Disc is from Russia. It seemed to be a normal release there...
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2017-12-03, 01:35 PM
(This post was last modified: 2017-12-03, 03:42 PM by Chewtobacca.)
I found a French HD DVD, but unfortunately it seems to be a different one. It's the TC and appears to contain the new mix and an authoring error.
Quote:EVO, 1 video track, 3 audio tracks, 2:17:15
1: Joined EVO file
2: Chapters, 12 chapters
3: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
4: DTS, French, 5.1 channels, 1509kbps, 48kHz
5: DTS Master Audio, English, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48kHz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 1509kbps, 48kHz)
6: DTS, French, 2.0 channels, 768kbps, 48kHz
[v03] This EVO/VOB file contains authoring faults. Will try to work around that. (263) <WARNING>
Does the other HD DVD show an authoring error when demuxing with eac3to?
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My contains that authoring error, also.
Are you sure that it is the new mix? ATM, I think best indicator is the percussion at the beginning, when/after the resistance guy is killed, with the new mixes it is totally absent.
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2017-12-03, 01:53 PM
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I didn't listen to it, but if that's what the 5.1 looks like on the HD DVD, the DVD is a better source.
EDIT: I think you might be right and that it's the new mix. If so, there's been some sort of processing applied. I wondered if something like this might happen. If there's one thing I've learnt from Moshrom's blog it's that the source with the best specs doesn't always contain the best audio.
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2017-12-03, 02:01 PM
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(2017-12-03, 01:53 PM)Chewtobacca Wrote: I didn't listen to it, but if that's what the 5.1 looks like on the HD DVD, the DVD is a better source.
Could it be, that StudioCanal just did a shitty job by reencoding the compressed DTS Track, to have the DTS-MA selling point?
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The japanese DVD was also from StudioCanal, at least it contains the StudioCanal Logo on the front side.
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(2017-12-03, 02:01 PM)MrBrown Wrote: Could it be, that StudioCanal just did a shitty job by reencoding the compressed DTS Track, to have the DTS-MA selling point?
I think it's more likely that the track was processed somehow.
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It's all in the mix
MrBrown, could you send me the HD-DVD track to check out?
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2017-12-03, 02:13 PM
(This post was last modified: 2017-12-03, 02:15 PM by Stamper.)
Looks like noise reduction was applied to the HD-DVD, watch the cut off of the hum at 16khz.
The Blu-ray was released about a year later I hope there is no authoring mistake.
Chewbacca looks like the Japan DTS is the best so far no?
Is the HD-DVD in the right tone? Studio Canal had a few released then with pitched Pal audio stretched to 24fps.
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2017-12-03, 02:15 PM
(This post was last modified: 2017-12-07, 12:12 PM by Chewtobacca.)
All spectrograms in one post...
Stamper's BD
MrBrown's HD DVD
My HD DVD (possibly the same)
DTS from JP DVD:
AC-3:
So far, I think the JP DVD is the best source.
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