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[No Longer Available] The Fellowship of the Ring Variable Aspect Ratio aka Open Matte
#11
So sounds like the general consensus is to go the variable aspect ratio route.

I will point out that Beber’s misgivings in the form of the later transformer movies is what I wanted to avoid. Never saw the last one but the forth(?) one was nauseating with its constant aspect ratio changes.

Going through the movie so far and having done the first half and hour and the last half an hour, there is only one sequence so far that swaps constantly around from 1.77 to 2.39 within a scene.

So what I’m going to try is to smooth over such transitions. Not use the shots with only a sliver of new info. Keep it 1.77 even if cut if the that makes the most sense in the scene. Keep it presentable in other words.
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#12
This will be the running list of all the OM shots as I find them:

The movie starts in 2.39
[Image: WNLurPq.jpg]

then goes OM for the beginning of the flashback

1. The elves, dwarves and men with their rings, pics of the Middle Earth map, pics of Sauron, Orcs raiding, etc

[Image: TlLrEZm.jpg]

and then it returns to 2.39 with this shot of the march on Mt Doom

[Image: RQEmPMd.jpg]

2. Shots of Gollum’s hand and the Misty Mountains

[Image: k54FPwO.jpg]

3. First shots of Frodo reading in the Shire/Gandalf arriving

[Image: lypEdQW.jpg]

just a few shots and then to 2.39 for the rest of the Shire tour

4. A shot of the birthday banner being raised

[Image: sa4t3On.png]

5. Random shots of Bilbo And Gandalf talking inside the hobbit hole

[Image: Bfy8dLP.jpg]

mixed with 2.39 shots like this

[Image: dJPn05T.png]

6. Shots of Bilbo and Gandalf smoking and the first shot of the party

[Image: lINYJS9.jpg]

and the rest of the party is in 2.39

7. Shot of Gandalf pondering the ring

[Image: gqd7ixm.jpg]

8. One shot from the wizard battle (Crop heavy on the sides but more info on the top and bottom to be worth it)

[Image: aOugItl.png]

9. One shot from the Hobbits fleeing the farmer

[Image: uM325O5.jpg]

10. Several shots from the first encounter with the ring wraith (mixed with 2.39 shots)

[Image: tbYtrp6.jpg]

11. 2 shots of Weathertop
[Image: aLtfGaQ.jpg]

12. The one continuous pan up shot to Gandalf on top of the tower
[Image: tnYRqfH.jpg]

13. 3 shots from the birth of the Uruk-hai
[Image: tXA4bJ1.jpg]

14. Shot from the flashback  (Crop heavy on the sides but more info on the top and bottom to be worth it)
[Image: h0l7Fsc.jpg]

15. Shot of the Fellowship
[Image: ykYb6Ar.jpg]

16. Shot from the mountain journey
[Image: fUXjLQa.jpg]

17. Different shot of the mountain journey
[Image: OCPLJBa.png]

18. One shot of Saruman reading his book
[Image: 4kE0D5e.png]

19. Shot of the entrance to Moira
[Image: FLWuUGM.png]

20. One shot of  Gandalf at the door
[Image: 3TIuMnO.png]

21. One shot from the discovery that everyone is dead in Moira
[Image: P2l3UTf.png]

21. Many shots from the troll battle mixed with 2.39
[Image: lDojQMZ.jpg]
[Image: CwEhK2x.jpg]

22. The chase through the staircases is a mix of OM and 2.39 shots
[Image: rYzGuCj.jpg]
[Image: aijtvOZ.jpg]

23. The confrontation with the Balrog on the bridge is a mix of OM and 2.39 shots
[Image: vtV6iua.jpg]

24. The exit to Moria has some additional top and bottom info.
[Image: 8liJeKl.jpg?1]

25. One shot from the Entrance to the Elven forest
[Image: fL34Dji.png]

26. A few shots from the meeting with Galadriel
[Image: bwQDIiE.png]

27. A few shots of the king conversation
[Image: yyDknBq.jpg]

28. One shot from the discussion between Frodo and Galadriel
[Image: xacbCZL.png]

29. The Fellowship leaving on the river till making camp is all OM
[Image: j9q9awZ.jpg]

30. Frodo talking till running away and seeing the eye is a mix of OM and 2.39
[Image: wLWY1dT.jpg]

31. And from Frodo falling to the end credits is OM
[Image: QcXyOmi.jpg]
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#13
how about WEB-DL 1080p source instead HDTV?
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#14
(2019-03-17, 08:53 AM)Vouka Wrote: how about WEB-DL 1080p source instead HDTV?

Do you know any?
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#15
That would help greatly
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#16
(2019-03-17, 08:12 PM)PDB Wrote: That would help greatly

send a pm
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#17
(2019-03-18, 09:35 AM)Vouka Wrote:
(2019-03-17, 08:12 PM)PDB Wrote: That would help greatly

send a pm

Big thanks to Vouka. I now have yet another source to work with, one with only the occasional logo.
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Thanks given by: Atreyo , Vouka
#18
I’m still punching away on this and as I find more open matte shots, I add them to the above posting.

At this point I’m curious if anyone wants other dubs added besides the English 6.1.
If so I need to get them organized at this point.
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#19
I didn't get any replies to the above inquiry so this will go out with only English. The great news on that front is that the Cinema DTS for me and now it is part of this project.

I went through every shot of FOTR and included any and all shots that showed interesting additional information in the framing with either info at the top and bottom or any amount on the 4 sides. Check post 12 for the complete list. I covered up the few logos remaining using a mix of the HDTV broadcasts. I also gave a slight re-grain to the film as it was heavily DNR'd.

I went a little further and started to color correct the movie to 35mm examples. The colors of the 35 are similar to EE's colors and I know how much that is hated so I pushed it to somewhere between both cuts (ie less green then the EE).

Color Corrected Version
[Image: Wqw2yKV.jpg]

After doing all that hard work, I realized a certain segment of people would only want the TC color timing period. So I ran off a second version with those colors

Original TC Color Version
[Image: w3r95Ee.jpg]

Beyond that this project is done. Participating members (aka no newbies) can PM me if they want a copy. I'll keep it posted for a week or two. Here is the mediainfo for one release. Both versions should be roughly the same size.

File size                                : 45.8 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 58 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 36.7 Mb/s
Movie name                               : THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-05-13 16:13:07
Writing application                      : mkvmerge v25.0.0 ('Prog Noir') 64-bitS
Writing library                          : libebml v1.3.6 + libmatroska v1.4.9

Video
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Format profile                           : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 58 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 30.0 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 40.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.603
Stream size                              : 37.4 GiB (82%)
Title                                    : The Fellowship of the Ring Variable Aspect Ratio (Quick Project v1.0B Color Corrected)
Writing library                          : x264 core 146 r2538 121396c
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=1 / weightp=1 / keyint=23 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=23 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=30000 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : DTS
Format/Info                              : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile                           : MA / Core
Mode                                     : 16
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Codec ID                                 : A_DTS
Duration                                 : 2 h 58 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable / Constant
Bit rate                                 : 2 499 kb/s / 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 93.750 FPS (512 spf)
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossless / Lossy
Stream size                              : 3.11 GiB (7%)
Title                                    : DTS-HD MA 5.1 (from the Cinema DTS discs)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No

Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : DTS
Format/Info                              : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile                           : MA / ES Matrix / Core
Mode                                     : 16
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Codec ID                                 : A_DTS
Duration                                 : 2 h 58 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable / Constant / Constant
Bit rate                                 : 4 214 kb/s / 1 509 kb/s / 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 7 channels / 7 channels / 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: C, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: C, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 93.750 FPS (512 spf)
Bit depth                                : 24 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossless / Lossy / Lossy
Stream size                              : 5.25 GiB (11%)
Title                                    : DTS-HD MA 6.1 (From the TC BD)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No

Text
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Format                                   : PGS
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Codec ID/Info                            : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration                                 : 2 h 49 min
Bit rate                                 : 19.8 kb/s
Count of elements                        : 2968
Stream size                              : 24.1 MiB (0%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No

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00:15:41.523                             : en:Chapter 03
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00:24:29.926                             : en:Chapter 05
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00:29:24.345                             : en:Chapter 07
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00:43:08.127                             : en:Chapter 09
00:46:59.149                             : en:Chapter 10
00:49:16.787                             : en:Chapter 11
00:55:10.598                             : en:Chapter 12
00:58:35.386                             : en:Chapter 13
01:00:17.739                             : en:Chapter 14
01:04:57.184                             : en:Chapter 15
01:07:28.419                             : en:Chapter 16
01:13:41.375                             : en:Chapter 17
01:15:42.246                             : en:Chapter 18
01:19:11.329                             : en:Chapter 19
01:22:44.417                             : en:Chapter 20
01:24:55.840                             : en:Chapter 21
01:26:34.731                             : en:Chapter 22
01:33:32.356                             : en:Chapter 23
01:35:25.469                             : en:Chapter 24
01:38:24.773                             : en:Chapter 25
01:43:06.305                             : en:Chapter 26
01:47:53.467                             : en:Chapter 27
01:52:49.679                             : en:Chapter 28
02:01:46.007                             : en:Chapter 29
02:11:27.462                             : en:Chapter 30
02:17:53.807                             : en:Chapter 31
02:23:22.468                             : en:Chapter 32
02:25:02.694                             : en:Chapter 33
02:25:55.413                             : en:Chapter 34
02:28:39.994                             : en:Chapter 35
02:35:10.134                             : en:Chapter 36
02:41:49.950                             : en:Chapter 37
02:44:24.646                             : en:Chapter 38
02:50:42.232                             : en:Chapter 39

Again I'd like to thanks babouin, Colek, Vouka and Doombot for helping to make this project possible
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With this project done and 2 release coming out of it that brings me up to 3 release for the year so far, when you include Top Gun. Last year I successfully completed these releases:

1. Die Hard 3
2. Tombstone
3. Flash Gordon
4. Predator
5. Mad Max 3

I'd like to break that record of 5 so what I am going to do is try to finish up and release most of the projects I have, including the three big ones (MM2, Aliens and Blade Runner) and some smaller ones that have been kicking around. So expect more projects being posted.
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#20
Last call, any other takers?
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