[No Longer Available]Aliens SE, TV and Theatrical Cut (Japanese WOWOW HDTV Broadcast)

[PDB]

Any other takers from members here? I have maybe 2 more Projects I'd like to upload and need the space.

[pipefan413]

Any other takers from members here? I have maybe 2 more Aliens projects I'd like to upload and need the space.

Don't mind if I do...

[The Aluminum Falcon]

Got a chance to see this. Really nice release, PDB. Certainly brings back a lot of memories to watching this master on DVD!

[PDB]

Thanks TAF.

It is very much the old DVD's look. Sadly the WOWOW isn't nearly as sharp or detailed as the BD but it feels less artificial.

[The Aluminum Falcon]

The BD definitely feels artificial in comparison, with specific things in frame windowed and tweaked in a way that would have been photochemically impossible and/or time-consuming in the 80s. While it's certainly a very interesting creation in its own right, doesn't seem to reflect the film's original look.

Since the WOWOW is quite a bit soft, due to the original transfer, I do wonder if a well preserved 35mm print (or 70mm if one allows themselves to dream) could yield sharper results.

[Beber]

My Zappiti 4K HDR media player doesn't like the 1st PCM track on the theatrical cut. Its unusual characteristics don't seem to suit it and it sounds all scratchy and unlistenable on my receiver. However it plays fine on my PC through Media Player Classic software and then my receiver agrees with it fine that way. Odd.

[pipefan413]

My Zappiti 4K HDR media player doesn't like the 1st PCM track on the theatrical cut. Its unusual characteristics don't seem to suit it and it sounds all scratchy and unlistenable on my receiver. However it plays fine on my PC through Media Player Classic software and then my receiver agrees with it fine that way. Odd.

What do you mean by unusual characteristics? (I haven't listened to it yet, no disk space left; am curious though and plan to watch soon!)

If it might help, I could maybe encode to bitstream .dtshd and send you that to try on your receiver? I might need the demuxed PCM though, don't think I have space for the whole thing yet.

[PDB]

It’s standard 48/16 PCM (from the LD 44.1)

If it’s still trouble you can just mux it out as the second default track, Jonno’s sync of the THX LD is 48.

I always keep Dolby Surround tracks in PCM so as to not confuse older receivers with matrixing 2 channel DTS MA.

Edit: I did make it 48

[pipefan413]

It’s standard 44.1/16 PCM (from the LD 44.1) so unless the zappiti only does BD standard of 48/16, it should work.

If that’s the case you can just mux it out as the second default track, Jonno’s sync of the THX LD is 48.

I always keep Dolby Surround tracks in PCM so as to not confuse older receivers with matrixing 2 channel DTS MA.

That's very interesting to me, largely because one of the main things I'm doing is archiving audio for the SW OT, and I've mostly chosen to use DTS-HD MA for that (although this is in addition to FLAC 44.1 kHz versions for the LD tracks). I suppose the 44.1 kHz explains what Beber meant by it going crazy on his receiver; I'd guess it doesn't support 44.1 kHz muxed to video.

If you don't mind my asking, what do you mean about matrixed DTS-HD MA confusing older receivers? Is the problem the surround flags (as in, encoding as Lt+Rt rather than L+R), or is it the fact it's DTS rather than Dolby and they'd be expecting Pro Logic, or something else entirely? I might switch to straight PCM, but the sheer volume of tracks I'm encoding / archiving means I'd prefer Lt+Rt .dtshd. Plus, it means my own receiver knows (without me having to tell it) that the audio is matrixed and will decode it back to surround by default.

[PDB]

I misspoke I did make it standard 48 so some people could make it into a standard BD