Batman 1989 4K

[Stamper]

5.1 Dts track from 2005 SE dvd (same as the Dts track, but louder)

you must mean 5.1 Dts track from 2005 SE dvd (same as the DD track, but louder)

[weegee2392]

5.1 Dts track from 2005 SE dvd (same as the Dts track, but louder)

you must mean 5.1 Dts track from 2005 SE dvd (same as the DD track, but louder)

Yeah, he means the Dolby 5.1 track. I think the 2005 sound mix lost some of its punch when being tranfered to the Blu-Ray. They should have done a new remix (without new sounds) in 2009.

[Chris Knight]

Are you sure about iTunes being PCM? Afaik iTunes is always normal AC-3. Don't recall ever seeing a PCM audio track from iTunes.

i think that the source file was either AAC or Dolby Digital Plus, RivalScenes converted it to PCM from the looks of it. if you notice, the spectrogram only goes up to 15khz.

It is the Original mix, just a bit louder.

iTunes Movies

1.0 + 2.0 = AAC
3.0 - 5.1 = Dolby Digital
Atmos mixes = E-AC3

ok thanks, noted... 

so not so good, but it's one of the avaibles audiotracks, so i still noted it...

5.1 Dts track from 2005 SE dvd (same as the Dts track, but louder)

you must mean 5.1 Dts track from 2005 SE dvd (same as the DD track, but louder)

5.1 Dts track from 2005 SE dvd (same as the Dts track, but louder)

you must mean 5.1 Dts track from 2005 SE dvd (same as the DD track, but louder)

Yeah, he means the Dolby 5.1 track. I think the 2005 sound mix lost some of its punch when being tranfered to the Blu-Ray. They should have done a new remix (with new sounds) in 2009.

oops...

little typo..sorry

thanks for noted.!



So, re-updated/corrected recap on the originals Batman 89 audiotracks:



2.0 from the JP LD (the best one)

2.0 from the US LD (2nd best)       

5.1 Dolby digital from 1997 dvd (3rd best,same as the LD,but encode in 5.1 and lossy)

5.1 Dolby digital from 2005 SE dvd (tamed new mix )

5.1 Dts track from 2005 SE dvd (same as the Dolby digital, but louder)

5.1 Dolby True Hd from 2009 Bluray. (same mix as the SE DVD but lossless, but with less punch...)

2.0 from Itunes  (AAC (converted to PCM), surely from the same mix as the bluray)

[RivalScenes]

I have a 4th generation Apple TV which doesn’t support Atmos or 4K I can confirm the Dolby Digital 5.1 mix is the original.

Languages listed on iTunes for Batman(1989)

English (Dolby Atmos, Dolby Digital 5.1, CC)
Arabic(Subtitles)
Bulgarian(Subtitles)
Cantonese(Subtitles)
Czech(Subtitles)
Danish(Subtitles)
Dutch(Subtitles)
Estonian(Subtitles)
Finnish(Subtitles)
French(Canada)(Stereo)
French(France)(Subtitles)
German(Subtitles)
Greek(Subtitles)
Hebrew(Subtitles)
Hungarian(Subtitles)
Indonesian(Subtitles)
Italian(Subtitles)
Japanese(Subtitles)
Latvian(Subtitles)
Lithuanian(Subtitles)
Malay(Subtitles)
Norwegian(Subtitles)
Polish(Subtitles)
Portuguese(Subtitles)
Russian(Subtitles)
Simplified Chinese(Subtitles)
Slovenian(Subtitles)
Spanish(Stereo)(Subtitles)
Spanish(Spain)(Subtitles)
Swedish(Subtitles)
Thai(Subtitles)
Traditional Chinese(Subtitles)
Turkish(Subtitles)
Ukrainian(Subtitles)

[dvdmike]

So we're my ears right with the JP LD being better?

[bronan]

If you hear subsonic frequenices

[deleted user]

I still have this theory that the EQ removing low frequencies may have caused phase shift, which might negatively influence dematrixing, which might be audible.

[KevinJohnson]

Batman (1989) and Batman Returns (1992) had the original english audio modified with a new mix, and Crapner didn't include the original one. Fortunately it's possible to simply add the original BD (1080p) audio to this new UHD-BD (4K) without any need to sync them. At least I never noticed any need to add a positive or negative delay to the track.

As for how these movies look like judge for yourselves...

Caps:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p...count=1392

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p...count=1349

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p...count=1319

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p...count=1298

RETURNS:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p...tcount=192

As for me Batman movies have always been best because of action, adventure and dark color. I love batman and I am a big fan of this character. More than these movies I like Batman trilogy by Christopher Nolan.

[KevinJohnson]

Batman (1989) and Batman Returns (1992) had the original english audio modified with a new mix, and Crapner didn't include the original one. Fortunately it's possible to simply add the original BD (1080p) audio to this new UHD-BD (4K) without any need to sync them. At least I never noticed any need to add a Agoc Travel positive or negative delay to the track.

As for how these movies look like judge for yourselves...

Caps:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p...count=1392

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p...count=1349

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p...count=1319

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p...count=1298

RETURNS:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p...tcount=192

As for me Batman movies have always been best because of action, adventure and dark color. I love batman and I am a big fan of this character. More than these movies I like Batman trilogy by Christopher Nolan.

[bronan]

Started looking at Batman Returns today. I've only compared the first couple minutes, but there's way more noise reduction on the UHD than I was expecting. It sounds like it's underwater by comparison Not sure yet just how tricky the sync will be, but there's already several frame differences, so I'm not expecting a walk in the park.


LD / UHD