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[Help] Peanuts Holiday Collection - sync mono from DVD to UHD?
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Hey everyone, I've recently started going through my DVDs to look for original audio mixes I can use to make hybrid remuxes with UHD rips. I normally just have figure out the delay or from time to time, change the frame rates in EAC3to so they match.

No matter what I do, I cannot seem to get the video for the Peanuts Holiday Collection UHDs to sync up with audio in the Peanuts 1960's Collection. Has anyone attempted to do this or ran into a similar problem on another project? Any tips will be appreciated and I’m happy to make all my results public.
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When new home video masters are prepared, sometimes they make mistakes. Frames may be dropped or duplicated. If the audio is remixed from the stems, then they may accidentally time the music cues a few frames earlier or later than was originally done.

If the audio is out of sync by a frame or two then I just go into a video editor and move the misaligned section of the audio to where it should be. In your case you'd of course be using the UHD mix as reference (unless you think that the producers of that set got something wrong). But if the audio is drifting out of sync by a lot more, then there's a deliberate difference between the editing of the two releases.
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(2021-09-03, 03:08 PM)Lio Wrote: When new home video masters are prepared, sometimes they make mistakes. Frames may be dropped or duplicated. If the audio is remixed from the stems, then they may accidentally time the music cues a few frames earlier or later than was originally done.

If the audio is out of sync by a frame or two then I just go into a video editor and move the misaligned section of the audio to where it should be. In your case you'd of course be using the UHD mix as reference (unless you think that the producers of that set got something wrong). But if the audio is drifting out of sync by a lot more, then there's a deliberate difference between the editing of the two releases.

Thanks for the reply.
I can sync the audio up to one spot but the rest of the video has the sync drifting off. I guess there some editing differences then.
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(2021-09-03, 04:12 PM)uVSthem Wrote:
(2021-09-03, 03:08 PM)Lio Wrote: When new home video masters are prepared, sometimes they make mistakes. Frames may be dropped or duplicated. If the audio is remixed from the stems, then they may accidentally time the music cues a few frames earlier or later than was originally done.

If the audio is out of sync by a frame or two then I just go into a video editor and move the misaligned section of the audio to where it should be. In your case you'd of course be using the UHD mix as reference (unless you think that the producers of that set got something wrong). But if the audio is drifting out of sync by a lot more, then there's a deliberate difference between the editing of the two releases.

Thanks for the reply.
I can sync the audio up to one spot but the rest of the video has the sync drifting off. I guess there some editing differences then.

I think the black commercial break cuts between the DVD and UHDs differ slightly. I tried to do the same thing with Christmas when I received the UHD collection early this month. I have the 1960s, 1970s and Emmy Honored Collections on DVD.
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I synced the mono track from the 1960s Collection DVD to A Charlie Brown Christmas. Will do the other crossovers from the '60s, '70 and Emmy Honored Collections as well.

But does anyone know Reaper? It's the program that I'm using to fix the transitional gaps between chapters. One problem I have is that I can't figure out how to listen to all channels at once, so I have to listen for the music when I'm editing, instead of the dialogue. I'm also wondering if it's normal for the render to be so much bigger. The AC3 from the DVD is only 35 megabytes, while my WAV/PCM render is 210 megabytes. My settings:

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I've noticed that with a few fan works too. That even VHS rips will have 1500 kbps PCM audio. Even if I lower it to 16 bits, it's still 140 MB. I'm using a sample rate of 48 kHz because that's what it is on the DVD.

Edit: Actually, I won't do the Emmy Honored Collection, since those are 5.1 too.
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(2021-12-20, 01:54 AM)Warm Gun Wrote: I'm also wondering if it's normal for the render to be so much bigger. The AC3 from the DVD is only 35 megabytes, while my WAV/PCM render is 210 megabytes.

It's normal; it's probably 192 kbps, which is the lowest allowed bitrate for an authored DVD. Your WAV file is not using any compression and is thus much larger.
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(2021-12-20, 03:37 AM)Lio Wrote:
(2021-12-20, 01:54 AM)Warm Gun Wrote: I'm also wondering if it's normal for the render to be so much bigger. The AC3 from the DVD is only 35 megabytes, while my WAV/PCM render is 210 megabytes.

It's normal; it's probably 192 kbps, which is the lowest allowed bitrate for an authored DVD. Your WAV file is not using any compression and is thus much larger.

Got it, thanks. Yes, they're all 192 kbps. I'm gonna render them at 16-bit or 768 kbps, unless it would be advisable to go 24-bit for re-encodes.
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