[In progress] TERMINATOR 2 Blu-ray regrade to 35mm

[Kongbloke]

Okay, it's relaunched. I'm using two 35mm scans as references this time, the one in "HDR" 2160p as it has cyan and purple cohabitating and more yellow fire, and another one in 1080p SDR for the rest. This is where it's at for now:

I hadn't realized there was a 2160p scan out there. I've got a 1080p one. Am assuming they are from different prints?

[Beber]

Okay, it's relaunched. I'm using two 35mm scans as references this time, the one in "HDR" 2160p as it has cyan and purple cohabitating and more yellow fire, and another one in 1080p SDR for the rest. This is where it's at for now:

I hadn't realized there was a 2160p scan out there. I've got a 1080p one. Am assuming they are from different prints?

Yes, and it’s missing a bit in the car when Sarah lectures John about his importance which makes him cry. It also looks washed out and overly bright with the HDR-ish rendering they made it with, but it remains usefull to me as it's closer in some aspects to my 35mm experience regarding the cyan and purple cohabitating in night blue scenes, and it also has more yellow fire and steel factory, also more in line with my 35mm experience. The other scans don’t capture these same characteristics in these moments.

[Kongbloke]

Okay, it's relaunched. I'm using two 35mm scans as references this time, the one in "HDR" 2160p as it has cyan and purple cohabitating and more yellow fire, and another one in 1080p SDR for the rest. This is where it's at for now:

I hadn't realized there was a 2160p scan out there. I've got a 1080p one. Am assuming they are from different prints?

Yes, and it’s missing a bit in the car when Sarah lectures John about his importance which makes him cry. It also looks washed out and overly bright with the HDR-ish rendering they made it with, but it remains usefull to me as it's closer in some aspects to my 35mm experience regarding the cyan and purple cohabitating in night blue scenes, and it also has more yellow fire and steel factory, also more in line with my 35mm experience. The other scans don’t capture these same characteristics in these moments.

Oh right thanks. Your work on it looks really great. Shame the 2160 scan has missing footage. I have a few home cinema copies of it including the NTSC LaserDisc boxset, the Skynet Edition and 4K remaster blu ray, but the latter has that horrible DNR! I recently found the 1080 35mm scan which I prefer to the blu rays. It feels a lot closer to how I remember it in the cinema, especially with all the pops and crackles and reel markers. It has that cold metallic blue look which seems to have been somewhat lessened in home cinema releases over the years. I saw it fair few times in '91. The last time I saw a film print of it in the cinema was a 70mm double bill with Total Recall in the Odeon Marble Arch about 1993. That's over 30 years ago so it could well be that my memory of how it looked is a bit faded lol.

[Beber]

Yeah, I couldn’t tell you how what I saw 30 years ago looked like either. Plus I wasn’t paying much attention to color timing back then. That terminology wasn’t even a thing for me. I didn’t even see T2 in theater in 1991. I saw a 35mm print still in fair condition around 2014-2015, when I was already a member of the original trilogy forum, so at that point I was very aware of these things and made a point to carefully observe the prints I was lucky enough to experience in theaters in Paris, France.

[Hitcher]

I suppose it’s the random.next one, but I never found it. I'd consider doing the same regrading effort for the open matte for sure. Please PM me if you can help.

As it has blurred corners I'm pretty sure it's the random.next one. Found on the Russian tracker.

[Kongbloke]

Yeah, I couldn’t tell you how what I saw 30 years ago looked like either. Plus I wasn’t paying much attention to color timing back then. That terminology wasn’t even a thing for me. I didn’t even see T2 in theater in 1991. I saw a 35mm print still in fair condition around 2014-2015, when I was already a member of the original trilogy forum, so at that point I was very aware of these things and made a point to carefully observe the prints I was lucky enough to experience in theaters in Paris, France.

Despite it being 10-ish years ago that's still really good you were able to see a 35mm print in this day and age. Glad some places are still showing them. I think only places like The Prince Charles Cinema in London still show 35mm prints in the UK now.

[Beber]

15 minutes and 29 seconds marker today. All this darkness, this night blue - purplish in the dark parts, cyan in the light parts - this yellow fire... Isn't it a thing of beauty? You don't even have to digitally erase Robert Patrick's thing when you grade it dark enough to convey the mood of the scene:

[Beber]

I dare you not to laugh at this stupid thing: https://youtu.be/QIxJYKsYBQk?is=zvZ1HrcUc6IGReFE

[Beber]

First reel is done. I can upload it for review. Ask for it by PM. It's 18 minutes long, without audio. I'm not too sure yet about the color temperature of the exteriors during the day. First, it's supposed to be the morning when Janelle picks up the paper. Following that in Pescadero, Silberman says "Good morning, Sarah". Then later on at the ATM, we don't really know what time it is before they go to the Galleria. It's not in real time, so... Then, there will be the T-800 locating John on his bike, and the T-1000 asking girls about John in the street. And then, the post-Galleria truck and bike chase is supposed to take place nearly at dusk, and the conversation afterwards between John and the T-800 is basically at dusk as it's night right after. So I wonder how I'll deal with those different moments of the day regarding the color temperature as I've never been in Southern California to know how it varies under such a sunny climate. The print scan is rather warm in all of these exteriors.

[bendermac]

Does anybody have the open matte shown here?
https://youtu.be/KLBKeFtONBg?is=kafRIktkl4H-vAPE
I suppose it’s the random.next one, but I never found it. I'd consider doing the same regrading effort for the open matte for sure. Please PM me if you can help.

Just found it on this site
https://vk.com/video837936982_456239384

What's the source? I want the OM version in higher quality