2022-04-14, 03:11 PM
(This post was last modified: 2023-01-28, 10:47 AM by Hydra Spectre.)
So, I discovered that the Blu-ray for the Archival Versions (US Theatrical, International Theatrical, Director's Cut) of Blade Runner does not have the best audio, only being in Dolby Digital 5.1, nor is it the original Dolby Stereo mix on LaserDiscs.
I checked that the HD-DVD release has slightly better Dolby Digital Plus audio tracks for the dubbed audio in all versions as well as the English 5.1 audio in the Archival Versions.
Unfortunately, I could not track a single rip or remux of the HD-DVD version of the Final Cut, let alone the Archival Versions (Disc 3).
I also discovered that the Archival Versions Blu-ray, HD-DVD and DVD releases had seamless branching to go between the two different versions, and that it can be replicated with MKVs, as seen in this forum post (which even gives an example of Blade Runner):
🔍https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=897
I have a crazy idea of making ultimate remuxes of Blade Runner, its many different versions, and its bonuses in the following versions:
Blade Runner: The Final Cut in 4K
Sources:
The Final Cut 4K Ultra HD with Dolby Vision Hybrid remux courtesy of Russian pirate group Dolby Vision Torrents (4K UHD video with Dolby Vision, as the retail disc was HDR10-only, Dolby Vision metadata taken from iTunes/Apple TV)
Various international releases of The Final Cut 4K UHD (Dolby Atmos remix; foreign language dubs not available in Dolby Digital Plus, subtitles)
Various international releases of The Final Cut Blu-ray (original Dolby TrueHD 5.1 audio mix, audio commentaries, subtitles)
The Final Cut HD-DVD (Dolby Digital Plus foreign language dubs, subtitles)
Criterion LaserDisc (legacy bonus features not on The Final Cut Blu-ray)
Video:
3840x2160p 2.40:1 HEVC Dolby Vision P8 + HDR10
Audio:
English: Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD
English: Dolby TrueHD 5.1
Japanese: Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo
Commentary 1: Dolby Digital 2.0
Commentary 2: Dolby Digital 2.0
Commentary 3: Dolby Digital 2.0
Various foreign dubs in Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Plus, 2.0 and 5.1
Format:
MKV
Blade Runner: The Final Cut in 1080p
Sources:
2017 Japanese dubbed The Final Cut Blu-ray (Dolby Atmos remix, Japanese dub, subtitles)
Various international releases of The Final Cut 4K UHD (foreign language dubs not available in Dolby Digital Plus, subtitles)
Various international releases of The Final Cut Blu-ray (original Dolby TrueHD 5.1 audio, audio commentaries, subtitles)
The Final Cut HD-DVD (Dolby Digital Plus foreign language dubs)
Video:
1920x1080p 2.40:1 VC-1
Audio:
English: Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD
English: Dolby TrueHD 5.1
Japanese: Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo
Commentary 1: Dolby Digital 2.0
Commentary 2: Dolby Digital 2.0
Commentary 3: Dolby Digital 2.0
Various foreign dubs in Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Plus, 2.0 and 5.1
Format:
MKV
Blade Runner: Archival Versions in 1080p
Sources:
Various international releases of the Archival Versions Blu-ray disc (superior MPEG-4 AVC video on post-2013 releases, foreign language dubs not available in Dolby Digital Plus, subtitles)
5-Disc Collector's Edition HD-DVD (Dolby Digital Plus audio tracks including the English 5.1 remix, subtitles)
Japanese LaserDisc of the US Theatrical Cut [NJEL-20008] (original Dolby Stereo mix of the US Theatrical Cut, the only release of this cut with digital audio)
US Criterion LaserDiscs of International Theatrical Cut [CC1169L] (CLV) and [CC1120L] (CAV Special Edition) (original Dolby Stereo mix of the Domestic Theatrical Cut)
LaserDiscs of Director's Cut (US) [12682] and (Japan) [NJL-12682] (original Dolby Stereo mix of the Director's Cut)
Video:
1920x1080p 2.40:1 MPEG-4 AVC
Audio:
English: Dolby Digital Plus 5.1
English: Dolby Surround LPCM 2.0
Japanese: Dolby Digital 2.0 Dual Mono
Various foreign dubs in Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Plus, 2.0 and 5.1
Format:
MKV with seamless branching
Blade Runner: Workprint in 1080p
Sources:
Post-2012 3-Disc Collector's Edition Blu-ray (superior MPEG-4 AVC video and DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 track)
Video:
1920x1080p 2.20:1 MPEG-4 AVC
Audio:
English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
Format:
MKV
Bonus Features
Post-2012 3-Disc Collector's Edition (exclusive art gallery and HD bonus features)
Pre-2012 5-Disc Collector's Edition bonus DVDs (better SD footage which was poorly converted in the Post-2012 releases; also included with the 4K UHD release)
US Criterion LaserDisc of International Theatrical Cut [CC112https://www.lddb.com/search.php?referenc...e&sort=refL] (CAV Special Edition) (missing bonuses not on the post-2007 releases)
Video:
Various
Audio:
Various
Format:
MKV (Videos)
PNG (Stills)
Blade Runner: The Broadcast Preservation in 1080p
Sources:
Archival Versions: Ultimate Definitive Edition (base video and audio)
CBS Broadcast Cut VHS capture (opening narration, guidelines for editing)
HBO Asia/Cinemax Asia HDTV capture (guidelines for editing, better censored audio)
Video:
1920x1080p 2.40:1 MPEG-4 AVC
Audio:
English [CBS, Remastered]: FLAC 5.1
English [HBO Asia/Cinemax Asia]: FLAC 5.1
English [CBS, Original]: FLAC 1.0
Format:
MKV
The only difference between the two audio mixes is that the CBS track has the opening narration while the HBO Asia/Cinemax Asia cut does not.
This would involve scouring through eBay for the HD-DVD and this may be a daunting task, especially since HD-DVDs are quite hard to come by, especially since the 5-Disc HD-DVD of Blade Runner only came out in North America.
Unfortunately, I cannot do this myself as I do not have the skills and/or equipment to tweak the audio, rip from HD-DVDs. My hard drive is also too small for this task.
I would love for this project to happen.
As I stated, my priority for foreign language dubs is the Japanese dubs but it would be great if all of the other dubs would be included as well.
P.S: It would require someone living in Southeast Asia or Hong Kong to get cable, wait for Blade Runner to come up on HBO or Cinemax, and record the broadcast.
I checked that the HD-DVD release has slightly better Dolby Digital Plus audio tracks for the dubbed audio in all versions as well as the English 5.1 audio in the Archival Versions.
Unfortunately, I could not track a single rip or remux of the HD-DVD version of the Final Cut, let alone the Archival Versions (Disc 3).
I also discovered that the Archival Versions Blu-ray, HD-DVD and DVD releases had seamless branching to go between the two different versions, and that it can be replicated with MKVs, as seen in this forum post (which even gives an example of Blade Runner):
🔍https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=897
I have a crazy idea of making ultimate remuxes of Blade Runner, its many different versions, and its bonuses in the following versions:
Blade Runner: The Final Cut in 4K
Sources:
The Final Cut 4K Ultra HD with Dolby Vision Hybrid remux courtesy of Russian pirate group Dolby Vision Torrents (4K UHD video with Dolby Vision, as the retail disc was HDR10-only, Dolby Vision metadata taken from iTunes/Apple TV)
Various international releases of The Final Cut 4K UHD (Dolby Atmos remix; foreign language dubs not available in Dolby Digital Plus, subtitles)
Various international releases of The Final Cut Blu-ray (original Dolby TrueHD 5.1 audio mix, audio commentaries, subtitles)
The Final Cut HD-DVD (Dolby Digital Plus foreign language dubs, subtitles)
Criterion LaserDisc (legacy bonus features not on The Final Cut Blu-ray)
Video:
3840x2160p 2.40:1 HEVC Dolby Vision P8 + HDR10
Audio:
English: Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD
English: Dolby TrueHD 5.1
Japanese: Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo
Commentary 1: Dolby Digital 2.0
Commentary 2: Dolby Digital 2.0
Commentary 3: Dolby Digital 2.0
Various foreign dubs in Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Plus, 2.0 and 5.1
Format:
MKV
Blade Runner: The Final Cut in 1080p
Sources:
2017 Japanese dubbed The Final Cut Blu-ray (Dolby Atmos remix, Japanese dub, subtitles)
Various international releases of The Final Cut 4K UHD (foreign language dubs not available in Dolby Digital Plus, subtitles)
Various international releases of The Final Cut Blu-ray (original Dolby TrueHD 5.1 audio, audio commentaries, subtitles)
The Final Cut HD-DVD (Dolby Digital Plus foreign language dubs)
Video:
1920x1080p 2.40:1 VC-1
Audio:
English: Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD
English: Dolby TrueHD 5.1
Japanese: Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo
Commentary 1: Dolby Digital 2.0
Commentary 2: Dolby Digital 2.0
Commentary 3: Dolby Digital 2.0
Various foreign dubs in Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Plus, 2.0 and 5.1
Format:
MKV
Blade Runner: Archival Versions in 1080p
Sources:
Various international releases of the Archival Versions Blu-ray disc (superior MPEG-4 AVC video on post-2013 releases, foreign language dubs not available in Dolby Digital Plus, subtitles)
5-Disc Collector's Edition HD-DVD (Dolby Digital Plus audio tracks including the English 5.1 remix, subtitles)
Japanese LaserDisc of the US Theatrical Cut [NJEL-20008] (original Dolby Stereo mix of the US Theatrical Cut, the only release of this cut with digital audio)
US Criterion LaserDiscs of International Theatrical Cut [CC1169L] (CLV) and [CC1120L] (CAV Special Edition) (original Dolby Stereo mix of the Domestic Theatrical Cut)
LaserDiscs of Director's Cut (US) [12682] and (Japan) [NJL-12682] (original Dolby Stereo mix of the Director's Cut)
Video:
1920x1080p 2.40:1 MPEG-4 AVC
Audio:
English: Dolby Digital Plus 5.1
English: Dolby Surround LPCM 2.0
Japanese: Dolby Digital 2.0 Dual Mono
Various foreign dubs in Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Plus, 2.0 and 5.1
Format:
MKV with seamless branching
Blade Runner: Workprint in 1080p
Sources:
Post-2012 3-Disc Collector's Edition Blu-ray (superior MPEG-4 AVC video and DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 track)
Video:
1920x1080p 2.20:1 MPEG-4 AVC
Audio:
English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
Format:
MKV
Bonus Features
Post-2012 3-Disc Collector's Edition (exclusive art gallery and HD bonus features)
Pre-2012 5-Disc Collector's Edition bonus DVDs (better SD footage which was poorly converted in the Post-2012 releases; also included with the 4K UHD release)
US Criterion LaserDisc of International Theatrical Cut [CC112https://www.lddb.com/search.php?referenc...e&sort=refL] (CAV Special Edition) (missing bonuses not on the post-2007 releases)
Video:
Various
Audio:
Various
Format:
MKV (Videos)
PNG (Stills)
Blade Runner: The Broadcast Preservation in 1080p
Sources:
Archival Versions: Ultimate Definitive Edition (base video and audio)
CBS Broadcast Cut VHS capture (opening narration, guidelines for editing)
HBO Asia/Cinemax Asia HDTV capture (guidelines for editing, better censored audio)
Video:
1920x1080p 2.40:1 MPEG-4 AVC
Audio:
English [CBS, Remastered]: FLAC 5.1
English [HBO Asia/Cinemax Asia]: FLAC 5.1
English [CBS, Original]: FLAC 1.0
Format:
MKV
The only difference between the two audio mixes is that the CBS track has the opening narration while the HBO Asia/Cinemax Asia cut does not.
This would involve scouring through eBay for the HD-DVD and this may be a daunting task, especially since HD-DVDs are quite hard to come by, especially since the 5-Disc HD-DVD of Blade Runner only came out in North America.
Unfortunately, I cannot do this myself as I do not have the skills and/or equipment to tweak the audio, rip from HD-DVDs. My hard drive is also too small for this task.
I would love for this project to happen.
As I stated, my priority for foreign language dubs is the Japanese dubs but it would be great if all of the other dubs would be included as well.
P.S: It would require someone living in Southeast Asia or Hong Kong to get cable, wait for Blade Runner to come up on HBO or Cinemax, and record the broadcast.