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Posted by: Monsieur Hulot - 2020-06-10, 06:52 PM - Forum: Presentation
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Hi everyone, I have been over at OT and TSWT for a while and can't believe i never registered here. Well I am here now and want to say hello!
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Deliverance (1971) ANA LD |
Posted by: spaceboy710 - 2020-06-10, 05:03 AM - Forum: Released
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Movie: Deliverance (1971)
Format: LD 0110385 (analog mono)
Lineage: Pioneer 660 > e-mu 0404 (set to 24-bit, 96 khz) > Audacity (edit out silence at beginning, side breaks, and end and Laserdisc logo and sounds at beginning of both side A and B)
No other processing done. Feel free to increase the volume (-6.5) or process however you see fit.
Output Soundtrack Options: 24-bit, 96khz, Mono (2.04 GB FLAC) or 24-bit, 48khz, Mono (1.11 GB FLAC)
Originally released in mono. This initial Warner Brothers release is the only way to get this in mono.
Not synced although I would love a synced copy.
PM me if you are interested
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pipefan413 projects |
Posted by: pipefan413 - 2020-06-09, 12:33 AM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases
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None of these are anywhere near as sophisticated as most of the incredible work that goes on around these parts, but I'm mostly making this thread to keep track of everything myself. I'm trying to do too many things at once, and a lot of them are tasks I don't yet have the skills to do properly, so it's starting to get really complicated. I'll keep this top post updated as things progress.
COMPLETED (pending any future revisions):
STAR WARS: Millions of Voices
A very large and reasonably comprehensive audio archive of the what I believe to be the best available audio for the Star Wars trilogy (1977–1983), including dozens of film audio options in multiple (lossless) formats and a large number of official and unofficial commentary tracks; version 3.0 is due out as soon as some new mixes appear from those actually making them, since I'm only really compiling files for archival and doing lossless decoding/encoding rather than actually editing mixes myself
HALLOWEEN: Evil Waits
A very conservative fan edit of Halloween (1978) to add a re-edited 1981 TV version scene as a prologue and restore the original mono audio
HALLOWEEN: A Symphony of Screams
A (comparitively much smaller) audio archive of the different audio tracks for Halloween (1978), including film audio, every official commentary track, and the music & effects only track from LaserDisc
NEAR DARK: a pipefan413 preservation
A presentation of the best available video and audio elements for Near Dark (1987), precisely re-synchronised, without any lossy re-encoding
SNOWPIERCER: preservation and translation
A presentation of the best available video and audio elements for Snowpiercer (2013), precisely re-synchronised, without any lossy re-encoding; also features custom subtitles translating all of the Korean dialogue in the film to English, except for sections that are already translated in the audio, and a large collection of re-synchronised international subtitles from official releases
ANATOMY OF A DEWBACK: upscale and framing correction
This is "done" except that I'm honestly not sure what the more "correct" framing is for this, because sources are few and all of them are terrible... once I decide, I'll declare it finished with and move on with my life (please help me)
IN PROGRESS, ONGOING:
ハチ公物語 (The Story of Hachikō): translation and audio repair
A presentation of the best available video and audio elements for ハチ公物語 (1987), with a new English subtitle translation which is taking me a long time to work through both due to the difficulty of doing this with my level of Japanese and the number of other things that I keep getting distracted with; the original Japanese audio is only available on one Blu-ray release, and even that is flawed (not least because of a big horrid audio glitch a few mins in that I'll need to fix)
TERMINATOR 2: theatrical audio mix re-sync to 2015 US Blu-ray Disc
This has already been done to most likely a higher standard than I'd manage (the AC-3 by @jonno and the DTS decoded to FLAC by @Chewtobacca) but I'm still interested in syncing the audio off the OOP 2008 2-disc French BD (DTS-HD MA 5.1) and the OOP 2003 Japanese DVD (1509 kbps DTS, but without decoding if possible) to the 2015 US BD and maybe the 2017 one but I can't see me wanting to watch that again. I'm up to my neck in missing frames at the moment, with all sorts of ridiculous screw-ups on every release (except the 2015 US BD which is actually pretty OK for the most part, but lacks the theatrical audio).
PLANNED / RESEARCH STARTED:
THE EXORCIST: The Version You've Almost Seen
An extended theatrical-and-then-some version of The Exorcist, with an audio mix more closely resembling the original presentation but with some of the additional scenes incorporated from the extended "Version You've Never Seen" cut with colour corrections to make the transitions somewhat less apparent
RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK: audio re-sync / repair
This may end up being done by someone else because I'm trying to do too much at once but would at its simplest involve just patching over a gap in the CLV LaserDisc audio, or at most, potentially a full new cleanup, restoration and re-sync of 35 mm optical audio
BASKET CASE: re-stabilisation reinstating Analysis Film Releasing Corporation logo to the MOMA restoration
As described in the linked thread, the UK version of this film from Second Sight suffers from very very bad stabilisation on hard cuts such that the image is knocked out of position for about 3 or 4 frames on almost every single cut, but the US Arrow release doesn't have that issue. However, it does have a different issue (minor, but annoying): it's missing the Analysis Film Releasing Corporation logo from the very start. The logo does appear on the earlier scan for the Image Entertainment / Second Sight releases, so I'm looking to reframe that to fill the same aspect ratio as the Arrow version of the video (no stretching or cropping, just adding pixels around the edges) and stick it on the start of the later restoration, after chopping off the extra text from the start of the later release.
DOG SOLDIERS: audio repair and possibly full restoration from multiple sources
At least, this will hopefully fix the messed up audio on the German UHD release; at best, it will also restore the video to the correct levels (since they appear to be wrong and the blacks are washed out to hell), fix the colours, re-grain the image so that cuts between negative elements and lower-quality sources are less distracting, and stabilisation of hard cuts if needed (same problem as Basket Case above apparently, though I've yet to see any myself)
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ハチ公物語 (Hachikō Monogatari / The Story of Hachiko) |
Posted by: pipefan413 - 2020-06-08, 11:51 PM - Forum: In progress
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This is less of a full-on audiovisual restoration and more of a subtitle translation, but nonetheless, I want to ensure I'm utilising the best elements available. As always.
The only Blu-ray Disc releases I know of are a Japanese one from 2015 and a German one from 2019. I have no reason to believe that the video encodes are different, especially since German releases (in my experience) seem to lift existing video and plonk it on a disc, maybe with different audio and/or subtitles, but without actually doing any new encoding. There is at least one problem with the Japanese audio (a glitch a few minutes into the film that sounds like a sound card going nuts or something) that I would like to patch over, but the original Japanese audio (which on the Japanese disc is 2.0 LPCM) is completely absent from the German disc, which makes it pretty useless to me. So I'm looking for alternative sources.
There are sellers on eBay trying to punt extremely dodgy looking DVDs which I assume to be pirate copies, specifically from Greece (which has an extremely poorly doctored JPEG image instead of any photos) and Thailand (which appears to show a sealed DVD in a box but it's supposedly PAL and "region 0" with "very good quality" English subtitles). Otherwise, there is a French DVD that supposedly also has the original Japanese audio as Dolby AC-3. But, again, it's PAL. The only NTSC source I know of is a Russian DVD which I frankly don't trust as far as I can throw it either, and obviously Japanese DVD(s) that I can't easily (read: affordably) get into Europe.
To be fair, I doubt it really matters much considering the only bit I've found thus far that needs patched is about 13,522 samples = ~225.4 milliseconds = ~0.2 seconds, so it probably would still be significantly better if I just used a PAL AC-3 source, slowed it down without shifting the pitch, then inserted the missing samples from it. But it would of course be better to just use a source that's already NTSC in the first place. I expect this is extremely unlikely, but if anybody has a LaserDisc with PCM on it, I'd bite your arm off for a capture of that (the only one I can see any evidence of existing is VHP49510 which the LDDB has very little data on).
There probably won't be much going on in this thread, but I figure it might make sense to track as I go nonetheless. I might post the odd update as I pass certain hurdles or notice new issues that need fixing.
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Hello! |
Posted by: shiftyeyes - 2020-06-08, 09:55 PM - Forum: Presentation
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Hello! I'm a lover of classic films and I've been a lurker for a few years (could've sworn I've at least registered before). Mostly interested in preservation of movies, alternate cuts/presentations, etc.
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BASKET CASE framing differences / re-stabilisation |
Posted by: pipefan413 - 2020-06-08, 12:50 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help
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I haven't fully decided whether I'll actually do this or not, but it annoys me enough to seriously consider it. I want to check other sources before proceeding though. My copy of BASKET CASE is the one released by Second Sight in 2012, which I assume to be sourced from the same master as the Image Entertainment release the year before, mostly due to them sharing an aspect ratio of 1.33:1 (Blu-ray.com claims the Image one is 1.34:1 but the back of the box says otherwise). The thing that may render this project unnecessary is that there is also a more recent Arrow release from 2018, with a different aspect ratio (apparently 1.37:1). Anyway, I'll get to the point...
The original theatrical presentation of this film seems to have been matted to 1.85:1, but on the negative it's more like 1.37:1. When the elements were re-scanned for Blu-ray, apparently the director chose to open up the frame to show more of the image since he was unhappy with the 1.85:1 presentation. There's a problem, though: possibly as a result of this opened matte, or possibly due to some other reason which currently eludes me, the framing very severely jumps on almost every single hard cut in the entire film on the Second Sight Blu-ray Disc. To show you what I mean, here are some screenshots from QuickTime Player to show both the frame numbers and the extent of the problem I'm talking about:
As you can see, after the cut, the framing starts off high, then jumps very noticeably downwards, then goes back up again to somewhere in the middle. This takes place over about 4 frames. This happens over... and over... and over again, the whole way through the entire film. It's extremely annoying.
The Arrow release was a US/CA exclusive (perhaps due to the relatively recent non-limited-edition version of the Second Sight release having just come out a couple of years prior) so I never got a copy and it's now really expensive, meaning I haven't yet seen it to compare and check whether this same problem is present there as well. It is framed differently though, so it could well be a completely different scan, and may not necessarily have this problem.
Might anybody be in a position to help compare the Arrow and Second Sight / Image releases to work out if it's worth me attempting this rather tedious but potentially worthwhile project?
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DOG SOLDIERS: fixing the Koch Media release |
Posted by: pipefan413 - 2020-06-07, 11:22 PM - Forum: In progress
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DOG SOLDIERS is one of my favourite films. I grew up watching horror and this is exactly the kind of mix of horror and black comedy that I love. But here's the trouble: there is no definitive release of this film.
It's a UK film, but since the UK is a PAL region, my DVD copy is not ideal. As far as Blu-ray goes, I think there was one US release from the old DVD master, and then after that Scream Factory did a new scan of a print in association with the director, which unfortunately looks really really poor because it is after all a scan of a 35 mm blowup a few generations away from the original 16 mm negative. The best visual fidelity to date is one Koch Media released in Germany last year, which is reportedly constructed from the original 16 mm negative (interesting because this was previously declared "lost", hence Scream Factory scanning a print). But even that has significant problems.
Some issues with the German UHD / 1080p release:
- The video levels appear to be wrong, as if it was accidentally encoded with PC RGB levels (0 to 255) instead of standard home video limited levels (16 to 235). When you play it back, it's as if the player thinks it's limited but it's actually full, because blacks look extremely washed out and grey.
- There appear to have been missing or damaged frames in the OCN elements somehow, because several frames seem to have been inserted from what looks like the Scream Factory (35 mm blowup) release, which makes the quality inconsistent.
- Another inconsistency with the quality is that every time there's an optical effect, the generational difference between the actual negative elements directly from the camera and the several-generations-removed frames containing optical effects is extremely jarring, because there is so much additional grain and so on. This is normal enough for optical effects, but it's severe here because of the 16 mm to 35 mm blowup making the grain significantly more apparent.
- Frequently when there is a hard cut, the new 2 or 3 frames are misaligned before the framing is then realigned and remains in place for the remainder of the shot. I found that the Second Sight open matte restoration of BASKET CASE had this same problem, which is also something I have a vague plan to fix (I'll probably crop it back to its original theatrical presentation which will mean I can stabilise each cut, but it'll take forever to do that). I may also consider doing the same with DOG SOLDIERS, but this would be extremely time consuming and tedious and I've got far too many things on my plate as it is.
- The English audio has been screwed up pretty severely, with at least two moments I know of thus far where the music or some other part of the audio is completely out of sync, causing it to obscure or even completely replace dialogue. Around 00:03:25 or so, the music builds to a crescendo then stops abruptly in every other audio track (e.g. DVD, Scream Factory BD, and German 5.1 track off this release) but in the English 5.1 Koch has the music fall behind so that it's still blaring when a character speaks instead of being almost silent. There's a similar issue a few minutes later as well (as described here) where a helicopter sound is duplicated in place of an actual line of dialogue, which is subtitled but not actually present in the audio (Koch on left, Scream Factory on right):
- The *German* audio seems to be sourced from a sped up PAL master, because it's all pitch-shifted upwards by ~4%. This makes it somewhat less useful for patching the English audio with, though not necessarily entirely useless.
So basically, this is a right big bloody mess.
I actually quite enjoy watching the crappy Scream Factory scan, because this film suits a more grindhouse-y presentation anyway and it means that when the opticals kick in there isn't a huge and harring drop in quality. However, the majority of the film looks undeniably superior on the Koch release because of the much better source, and the Scream Factory scan appears to be significantly cropped down to 1.78:1 (16:9) instead of its correct aspect ratio of 1.85:1. There is a Japanese release due out soon which seems to be sourced from the Koch scan, but I have no idea if they'll bother to fix the audio or any of the issues with the video and I don't think it's likely I'd be importing it to find out because it would be really expensive to do so and if it turns out they just left it as is I'd be really annoyed at wasting so much money.
I'm going to experiment with a few different approaches, starting with the simplest. Initially, I planned to try to simply sync the audio off the old Scream Factory release to the Koch Media one, but figured I might have to patch missing frames from the Scream Factory scan. Turns out that it might be almost the other way around somehow, since the Koch release's English audio for some reason seems to get ahead of the Scream Factory audio rather than the reverse. I'm wondering if maybe it's a 24 fps vs 24000/1001 fps issue, since it seems to get worse and worse as the film progresses (on the Koch release).
I'm assuming I'll need to actually go through both releases frame by frame to see if they actually contain the same frames of the actual film (video-wise) because the audio is all over the damn place. It might be as simple as just ignoring the Koch audio completely and figuring out a delay to apply to the Scream Factory audio that works reasonably well with the Koch video, but not if they have a significant difference in video frames.
To *really* do this justice I think somebody (probably somebody with a lot more skill and experience than me, unless I come back to this much later) would likely need to start with the Koch release but use the Scream Factory and/or earlier releases to fix the audio problems, as well as somehow figuring out how best to stabilise all the dodgy hard cuts and probably apply a grain plate to the shots sourced straight from the OCN so that they look more similar to the shots containing optical effects. Finally, the render would need to be done at the right video levels to get rid of the minging grey "blacks". But right now, the main thing is probably to sort the audio out, and *maybe* re-encode to fix the video levels (or if possible, just update the headers to flag the content as full-range, but I don't know if that would actually work in practice).
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