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Downmixing - How can you tell? |
Posted by: spaceboy710 - 2020-12-12, 07:43 PM - Forum: Audio and video editing
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Hey everyone!
I've been seeing lots of mentioning of tracks being "downmixed" from the 5.1 to 2.0 stereo or mono.
How are people able to tell it is a downmix as opposed to a separate mono mix? Is there an analysis tool people are using? Just very curious.
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My Laserdisc Wishlist to sync |
Posted by: sertoli - 2020-12-11, 04:41 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help
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My Laserdisc Wishlist to sync:
The General (1927) [LV21476] (piano score by William Perry)
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
Blow-Up: Criterion (1967)
Life of Oharu: Criterion (1952)
Grand Illusion: Criterion (1937)
Sansho the Bailiff: Criterion (1954)
The Seven Samurai: Criterion (1954)
The Third Man (1949)
Walkabout: Criterion (1971)
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Death Sentence Unrated (2007) |
Posted by: alleycat - 2020-12-10, 01:12 PM - Forum: Released
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When Death Sentence was released on DVD there were two versions, Unrated and R Rated. The blu ray release unfortunately only contains the R Rated cut. Just to clarify there is an unrated released on blu in France and possibly other places, but it uses Upscaled SD footage as opposed to true HD footage. This project is a full HD restoration of the Unrated cut.
The main source of the video is the German Concorde Blu Ray. This seems to be the best blu ray out there as it is 1080P and has DTS HD audio (only High Resolution for English not Master Audio) but it's better than Dolby Digital like the UK disc. The French disc seems to have DTS HD Master Audio but I don't have this and I do wonder what real world difference it will make.
The source of the unrated scenes is a webrip from Amazon Germany, 1080p with German AC3 and English AC3 640 kbps.
The blu ray was used where possible, unrated scenes have been cut in, in some places just the unrated audio was used. To my ears the audio matched up quite well, I had to boost the volume in one of the unrated segments. The English and German audio were both exported and encoded as 5.1 DTS-HD MA.
Details of what is extra can be found here:
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=4695
- BD25 with menus, pop up menus, background video and resume
- 1080P Video 2:40:1
- English and German 5.1 DTS-HD MA (German has subs in parts that weren't dubbed)
- Spanish 2.0 AC3
- English, French and Spanish subtitles
- Fox Movie Channel Presents: Making A Scene
- Fox Movie Channel Presents: Life After Film School With Kevin Bacon
- Webisodes
- Interviews with Kevin Bacon, Garrett Hedlund, Kelly Preston, Aisha Tyler and James Wan***
- B Roll***
- Theatrical Trailer
*** These were field blended by the German Blu Ray label. I've tried to make them a little easier to watch but they are not pretty - thanks Chewie for looking at these.
PM me for the links, contributing/long term members only please. Contributing means active members of the forum who post and/or make their own projects.
High Resolution cover and disc art available from @Pineapples101 Here.
Menu:
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Movie:
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Just to clarify this is a project that I have made for myself which I am choosing to share. If you don't like the project, if you think it should have been done differently then feel free to keep that to yourself and consider doing your own project.
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Splash (1984) Trailer |
Posted by: Croweyes1121 - 2020-12-09, 02:56 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help
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Anyone have a decent copy of the original theatrical trailer? This is the only copy I've been able to find on YouTube, but the quality is just horrible. I've started a new YT channel to update old trailers to HD that don't have good versions, and I'd like to do this one next. But a LITTLE better quality would go a long way toward helping me do that. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzYYbBU-pzU
I also need help identifying the last two pieces of music in the trailer (from 2:04 on) if anyone knows what they are.
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How lossy is a lossy audio codec? |
Posted by: spoRv - 2020-12-09, 01:15 PM - Forum: General technical discussions
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I decided to start this thread because I always read certain claims, by codec producers and/or users, about alleged subjective transparency of lossy codecs at really low bitrates; last of them was by MPEG-H (that uses AAC) that set transparency level at 96kbps per channel - that is 8 times less than uncompressed LPCM.
Now, how can anybody find out how lossy is that codec, or any other? And, what does it mean "subjectively transparent"?
According to Wikipedia:
Quote:In data compression and psychoacoustics, transparency is the result of lossy data compression accurate enough that the compressed result is perceptually indistinguishable from the uncompressed input. In other words, transparent compression has no perceptible compression artifacts.
Then, a given codec compressed using a given bitrate and/or setting could sound transparent to me, but not to someone else, or could sound transparent when played in a portable audio player and earplugs but not on a hi-fi system.
Said so, if I "lock" certain variables - subject: me, sound chain: always the same - how can I state a given codec is "subjectively transparent"? And, which could be "more transparent" than another?
I thought about several ways to compare original and lossy encoded files:- listening tests - just play one after the other (possibly with an ABX method)
- waveforms - using Audacity, looking for difference in waveform shapes
- spectrum analysis - using Spek (or Audacity etc.) looking for difference in frequency and loudness
- audio difference - using Audacity, load first original file; then load encoded file; if stereo, divide each track in two mono tracks; invert phase in one file; playing both (one in phase, one out of phase) will lead to cancel similar sound, leaving only the difference
I made several tests, and a lot of surprises arose; although all codecs (at reasonable compression settings) sound more or less good, and their waveforms seems quite similar; still, when spectrums were compared, a lot of differences came out, as well as in the last test; sound transparencies were rarely achieved at claimed bitrates for many codecs.
Conclusion: taken in account that more or less all lossy codec sound "nice" around reasonable compression ratio that start from ratio 8:1 (depending on codecs), and almost all sound good around 4:1, and their waveforms are very similar, personally I prefer the codecs that does not cut high frequencies - even if some can't hear higher frequencies, it doesn't mean an encoded files should discard them - and, between them, I decided to favour the ones that have less audio differences.
Note: psychoacoustic techniques used in many modern lossy codecs help to lower bitrate, but introduce often audible artifacts not found on older codecs - maybe there is a reason while Auro decided to not use them in their Octopus codec!
PS: despite someone still claim, in 2020, superior quality of certain lossless codecs, they indeed sound ALL EXACTLY THE SAME (if played through the same chain of source-cables-amplifier-speakers, of course); hence: FLAC, DTS-HD, MA Dolby TrueHD etc. when decoded are all identical, bit by bit, to the uncompressed source.
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