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  Cool Hand Luke [1967] Audio Comparison
Posted by: M A - 2024-04-10, 03:12 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (1)

Hello, I've tracked down a few editions, and here is how they compare. If anyone has the 1997 R1 Warner DVD or any of the Laserdiscs, they would be greatly appreciated for comparison.

2023 Warner UHD

Terrible. Extremely filtered and very bass heavy.
Spectrum: https://imgur.com/a/88e28sT
Spectogram: https://imgur.com/a/tEdDF1P

2008 Warner BD

Better. Not nearly as filtered. The 2008 R1 Warner DVD - Deluxe Edition is identical.
Spectrum: https://imgur.com/a/8bATg83
Spectogram: https://imgur.com/a/Zjll8Fr

2005 R2 Warner DVD

A bit less filtering still compared to the BD. The best of the bunch here.
Spectrum: https://imgur.com/a/6fYtabY
Spectogram: https://imgur.com/a/XzL5Y95


Once again, if anyone has the 1997 R1 Warner DVD, any of the laserdiscs, or any other audio sources they would be greatly appreciated Smile

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  Planet of the Apes sequels (1970-1973) audio collection
Posted by: jonno - 2024-04-09, 01:59 PM - Forum: Released - Replies (7)

Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970)

While you might expect the story for the lower-budget sequel, Beneath, to be a bit more straightforward, it has its own quite complicated history. True, the theatrical release was only ever mono, and again this original mix only survived until the earliest days of home video. However, it appears that a true stereo mix also exists for this film - I'll come back to that shortly.

Theatrical mono

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As with the first film, the mono soundtrack heard on this instalment's theatrical release only stuck around as far as the very first VHS and laserdisc releases. For my BD-synced preservation, I've used the PAL CBS-Fox laser from 1983 (1013-70) - it's clear and detailed, unlike the equivalent 'mono' on the Blu-ray. Once again, this is the most authentic option.

Pre-release stereo

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I need to skip ahead a bit release-wise now. While researching these tracks, I happened upon some forum posts from the sound engineer who mixed Beneath for the initial (2000) DVD release. He confirmed that there had most definitely been a 4-track mix made during this film's initial post production, and (unlike any that might have existed for the original film) these elements survived, in the form of 4-track 35mm mag. This master formed the basis for the Dolby Surround track on that 2000 DVD, making it the rare case of an original mix preserved in excellent quality - and it sounds terrific. Many thanks to @Stamper for helping source this one for my BD sync project!

Chace stereo

I don't currently own a laserdisc copy of this mid-80s mix, only VHS, so I haven't synced it for now. We're not missing much - it's even worse than the Chace remix for Planet, with similarly artificial steering and some elements actually missing. That said, if anyone has the SWE LD (1013-80) and would like to hear it synced, do send it my way.

When the whole series was rereleased on DVD in 2006 (including new anamorphic transfers), Beneath received a 'new' 5.1 track. Predictably, this was closer to the Chace mix than anything else, with variable balance and missing effects. The Blu-ray version goes some way to re-balancing everything, but the quality (on both the 5.1 and folded-down mono) is surprisingly dull. Once again, the laserdisc and DVD tracks are the way to go.

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  Hi!
Posted by: uhdfan93 - 2024-04-08, 03:02 PM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (1)

So excited to be part of this community! I got a Terminator regrade releasing soon Wink Stay tuned!

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  Hello!
Posted by: Hyperthesis - 2024-04-06, 05:39 AM - Forum: Presentation - No Replies

Greetings from New England. I'm a big fan of sci-fi and 80's films.

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  Planet of the Apes (1968) audio collection
Posted by: jonno - 2024-04-05, 12:05 AM - Forum: Released - Replies (3)

I've been working on these tracks in one form or other for quite a while now. I've just now had the time and tools to put everything together - hope it proves of use or at least interest to someone!

The original Planet of the Apes movie has had quite the convoluted history of soundtracks. Legend has it it initially received a 4-track stereo mix, which some claim to have heard on the film's original run, while others insist that only mono prints ever made it to theatres.

In any event, any original stereo mix is long gone and even that mono track is something of a rarity, since it was only used in home video releases for a very small window of time before Fox commissioned a stereo rework by Chace Audio (more on that in a moment). Here are the three tracks that make up my Blu-ray synced preservation project, starting with the way it was heard in theatres.

The original mono mix

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For my preservation of the theatrical mono, I used the non-CX analogue sound from the 1982 Japanese laserdisc FY515-26MA. It's not terribly high quality, with an overall harsh sound and occasional crackles and pops (none of which I have attempted to clean up). That said, it is clearly a different piece of work from anything released since, with the fantastic music well to the fore as opposed to buried under sound effects (and it's quite obvious now that the so-called original mono on the BD is nothing of the sort). If you want authentic, this is the way to go.

The Chace stereo mix

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Chace's stereo mix was commissioned for the mid-80s VHS release and carried over to the 1990 Special Widescreen Edition laserdisc (1054-80, the belated first issue for this film in the US). While it's undoubtedly cleaner than the old analogue mono, its stereo steering (based on mono dialogue, sound effects and music elements) is forced and phony, and (as mentioned before) the score is frequently buried in the mix. I've captured and synced this track (in digital PCM) for posterity, though it's not really one I'd choose to listen to.

The 5.1 anniversary mix

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When the first DVD was released in 2000, the Chace mix was rechanneled to 5.1 and pretty clunky-sounding as a result. A few years later, a new disc was released for the 35th anniversary and a proper 5.1 mix was made from scratch. This mix is far more careful and respectful than the previous remix efforts, with excellent clarity and balance between the elements. The new 5.1 was presented in both Dolby Digital and DTS on the disc - I've losslessly resynced the DTS for this collection. If you want to hear this film in its best fidelity, this is my recommendation.

This timeline brings us to the Blu-ray that these tracks are intended for (the same disc that Fox have repeatedly reissued since its first release 16 years ago). Its DTS-HD master 5.1 is curiously flat compared with the 2003 mix (and clearly still from mono elements, including the music), and the included mono track is most likely a fold-down of the elements prepared for the surround.

Now that I've excavated the first movie as far as currently possible, I'm keen to keep going with the four original sequels, whose sound stories are somewhat simpler than the original (though not without incident). More to follow!

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Video Hello
Posted by: akula93 - 2024-04-04, 12:42 AM - Forum: Presentation - No Replies

Hello. I like movies. And cars. Especially movies about cars. Oh and Godzilla.

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  Drunken Master II (醉拳二)–Film Whisperer ultimate package
Posted by: The Film Whisperer - 2024-04-02, 05:11 AM - Forum: Released - Replies (5)

Check my signature for links to my other projects here Fan-Res!
Do you believe in what I do? I appreciate donations (links/info in my signature)

DISCLAIMER: I cannot take credit for the video/color-correction part of this project. All of that credit goes to another friend. And special thanks goes to him.

And also, special thanks goes to HKR (Hong Kong Rescue), and all who worked on those projects.

HKR, we miss you.

About the film
Do I really need to describe it to you all? If you're a fan of Jackie Chan, you know this film.
Here's a fun-fact: this was the last of Jackie Chan's films to be made without sync-sound.

The only thing you need to know about this film is that the Miramax/Dimension (henceforth referred to has just "Miramax") stranglehold on distribution rights is finally over. In fact, I believe the Miramax print is OOP (out of print), and now Warner Bros has the distribution rights.

Therefore, I do urge you to PLEASE by one of the recent blu-ray releases of this film, before asking me to share my project with you.
What is my project?
My project has two versions of the film
  1. Hong Kong theatrical version (Cantonese version)
  2. Taiwanese/Mandarin theatrical version

Both files are MKVs, with a frame rate (and speed) of 23.976 fps

Hong Kong theatrical version specs

size: 33.63 GB

Video source: A color-correction from an online friend, who toned down the somewhat over-saturated color-tones from the Warner Bros blu-ray version (which is visually still far superior to the Miramax version).

Subtitles
  1. Dialog---translation is straight from HKR
  2. End credits theme songs: The translation of the sung lyrics are a combination of me using Google translate on the written characters, and my wife (who is Chinese and only speaks Mandarin). However, she warned me that Cantonese and Mandarin really are two different spoken languages, and that differences is amplified A LOT in songs. I then spent $60 out of my own pocket for a professional translation of the spoken part for the Cantonese theme song. So y'all better thank me big time!
  3. All subtitle options have a "no bi-lingual" option for the end credit theme song translations, in case your media player can't handle Chinese characters.

Audio list (note, all tracks will have the Cantonese theme song playing in the end credits)

#1. 2.0 LPCM (mono) Cantonese mono track (presumably from the HK laserdisc?)

This track has A LOT more weight behind it than HKR's! "Heavier" and "dirtier" but very robust.

#2. 2.0 LPCM (stereo) all-Cantonese (from HKR...but I'm not sure where they sourced it from)

HKR's audio tracks are a lot cleaner, but a little weaker. And I think they are genuine stereo and not dual-mono, but I'm not 100% sure.

#3. 2.0 LPCM (stereo), Cantonese/English hybrid (from HKR...but I'm not sure where they sourced it from)
This is one that I made personally. I thought it'd be a nice touch to have a "hybrid" track, with the Chinese characters speaking Cantonese and the British characters speaking English. During scenes that have back & forth conversations between Chinese & Englishmen, the Chinese characters will also speak English.

#4. 2.0 LPCM (stereo), export English dub (from HKR...not sure where they sourced it from)

Unlike the Miramax dub, the "export" dub retains the original score and sound effects. The export version played an instrumental version of the "Drunken Fist" theme song during the end credits. However, this dub I synced will play the Cantonese theme song with subtitles.

The original "export" version of this film cuts to end credits after Fei-Hung faints after the final fight. Movie-censorship has that documented here. I believe the export dub on the official Warner Bros blu-ray and VOD releases revert to the Cantonese for the entire ending scene. but will still play an instrumental version of the theme song.

In my restoration on the export dub track, I use the Miramax dub for that final scene, until the very end during the "blind boxing scene" (the scene that Miramax infamously cut for being "tasteless"), where the track will revert to Cantonese.

I personally would like to know if a stronger, heavier and possibly "dirtier" version of this dub exists somewhere, becuause I'd like this track to pack a little more "weight" without too much distortion. Though nonetheless, this dub from HKR is clean and clear.

#5. 5.1 Dolby TrueHD, Miramax/Dimension English dub

I'm sure many of you were first introduced to this movie with this dub track. This is the only audio track for the movie that will have Jackie Chan's voice. It has a brand new score (which is actually really good in my opinion), plus new sound effects, which I also feel are well-done.

It is my dream one day to make a version of this movie which has the Miramax score and sound effects, with the original Cantonese dialog! If anyone wants to help me make such a track, please contact me!

#6. Commentary from Bey Logan (ULTRA RARE TRACK...no idea where it originally appeared)

Subtitle list
(just a reminder that all subtitle options have a "no bi-lingual" option, for the lyrics to the theme song in the end credits, just in case your media player can't handle it)

  1. English for "pure" Cantonese tracks
  2. English for my custom HKR Cantonese/English track
  3. English for the English dubs
  4. SDH for Miramax dub

"Mandarin" / "Taiwanese" version specs
size: 20.12 GB

Wait...what is the "Mandarin" version?

If you're not familiar with the "Mandarin" version, Movie-Censorship can explain it here. Basically, the main difference is the song that Wong Fei-Hung sings at the outdoor marketplace, during the evening time, after he's been (temporarily) dis-owned by his father. This cut of the film has him singing an alternate song filmed in the Mandarin dialect (which I properly subtilted in this restoration).

I restored the "drunken singing scene" using the Thakral DVD. Yes, the visual difference is obvious. I left that sequence in its original 1.85:1 AR (whereas the rest of the movie is 2.35:1), since I didn't want to crop an already cropped video, and I upscaled it as best as I could and color-corrected accordingly.

It also had all-Chinese opening credits (instead of bi-lingual English/Chinese ones), but I decided not to honor that.

The Mandarin dub's script is quite similar to the Cantonese one, but it does differ in some areas. My wife helped translate the theme song (and she's far more confident in her translation here than she is for the Cantonese one). I used the Takral DVD for guidance on some of the subtitle nuances in the script differences.

Video
I made this video before my friend's color-corrected version of the HK theatrical cut was made available. So therefore, my version uses HKR's somewhat over-saturated version (but still looks great!)

Audio
2.0 LPCM, Mandarin dub (from HKR) for everything except the alternate "Drunken Fei-Hung singing" scene, which used the Thakral DVD 5.1 Mandarin dub track

Subtitles: English, properly translating the Mandarin script, which is very similar to the Cantonese script but has its differences.

"non bi-lingual" option is available.

By the way...
I also included in the folders separate SRT subs, to "open source", if anyone wants to make their own subs in another language. And also, if any of you understand Cantonese/Mandarin and written Chinese well enough to correct for the song and dialog translations, please feel free to make corrections!

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  Hello from nashville
Posted by: audiosuck - 2024-03-31, 09:34 PM - Forum: Presentation - No Replies

hi im a 40yo film nerd living in nashville TN. i play music and like to Dj\VJ. really interested in seeing some of these fan restorations and maybe doing my own some day. just want to learn more about the community and see what projects everyones doing. esp interested in 90s tv remasters, avant-garde, artsy obscure stuff, the weird and rare. glad to meet yawl.

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  Hello!!!
Posted by: DaGreek - 2024-03-29, 02:32 AM - Forum: Presentation - No Replies

New to the site. Nice to be part of this community.

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  Hello
Posted by: jayboifarti - 2024-03-24, 06:44 PM - Forum: Presentation - No Replies

I am new to this site!

Jay

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