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Posted by: seb951 - 2026-06-23, 05:03 AM - Forum: Presentation
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Just found this forum while searching for information on LaserDisc audio for older movies.
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Posted by: mikethebomber@gmail.com - 2026-06-22, 02:57 PM - Forum: Presentation
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Just found this forum while searching for some long lost cuts of movies. Very great idea for a forum! Thanks for letting me join.
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Posted by: Beber - 2026-06-21, 04:40 PM - Forum: In progress
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Hey, guys.
Working on my extended cut of Sin City gave me the idea to revisit modern classics in a neo-noir version, not to the extent of Sin City as I could never add color sporadically, but in classic black & white. My first pick, as already in 2005 I wanted to see a Sin City-like Batman film, is Tim Burton's Batman of course: the dark misty alleys, the mob, the corruption, the gangster outfits with trenchcoat and hats, the reporter, the blonde femme fatale, it's all there.
So here's a glimpse of how it could look:
![[Image: batman-noir.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/1PBDyPrd/batman-noir.jpg)
![[Image: batman-noir-2.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/wgbJsVPk/batman-noir-2.jpg)
![[Image: batman-noir-3.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/69CGgNQ1/batman-noir-3.jpg)
![[Image: batman-noir-4.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/38B0rCmc/batman-noir-4.jpg)
![[Image: batman-noir-5.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/6wM4DcBD/batman-noir-5.jpg)
![[Image: batman-noir-6.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/PTNvhDx3/batman-noir-6.jpg)
![[Image: batman-noir-7.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/2zN14XxV/batman-noir-7.jpg)
![[Image: batman-noir-8.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/G3ttL0bV/batman-noir-8.jpg)
![[Image: batman-noir-9.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/9VgtGCw4/batman-noir-9.jpg)
![[Image: batman-noir-10.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/L2qkDwjG/batman-noir-10.jpg)
![[Image: batman-noir-11.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/TTgVMb7g/batman-noir-11.jpg)
![[Image: batman-noir-12.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/vQyWQmCD/batman-noir-12.jpg)
I dig the look of it. The black & white gives a better appreciation for cinematography, plus the matte paintings look more convincing. I'm at 17 minutes for now, using the UHD as source, and it goes a lot faster to grade when you don't have to match colors, but just consider the highlights and shadows. I'm considering making an optional mono track to complete the idea.
The other films on my list to consider are the following. Some are crime noir, detective noir, tech noir, comic noir, monster noir, spooky noir, war noir, serial-like adventure noir:
- The Crow.
- Carlito's Way.
- The Usual Suspects.
- Dark City.
- Blade Runner.
- Scarface.
- Seven.
- The Godfather.
- Gremlins.
- The Terminator.
- Terminator 2.
- L.A. Confidential.
- Batman Returns.
- Alien.
- Aliens.
- Jurassic Park.
- Raiders of the Lost Ark.
- Thief.
- Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow.
- Who Framed Roger Rabbit (maybe with Toontown in color, although I couldn't deal with it being seen through the hole in the brick wall at the end)
- Payback.
- Sleepy Hollow.
- The Untouchables.
- The Thing.
- Reservoir Dogs.
- War of the Worlds.
- Saving Private Ryan (with the opening and ending in color just like Schindler's List).
- Minority Report.
- Robocop.
- Predator (with maybe a different tint for the thermovision).
- The Others.
- The Sixth Sense.
- 300.
- The Silence of the Lambs.
- Delicatessen.
- The City of Lost Children.
- The Matrix.
- Sherlock Holmes.
- Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows (the title is very telling).
- King Kong (2005).
- Bram Stocker's Dracula.
- Hellboy.
- Panic Room.
- The Mask of Zorro (as I grew up watching the old B&W series in my childhood).
- Identity.
- Albino Alligator.
- Goodfellas.
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| Theatrical 4.1 → 5.1: duplicate mono surround at full level or attenuate by 3 dB? |
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Posted by: ash_82 - 2026-06-21, 11:13 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help
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So theatrical 4.1 mixes are effectively L, C, R, LFE and a single mono surround channel (Cb).
If I want to sync and preserve one of these mixes, I'll eventually need to export it as a standard 5.1/6-channel file.
My current approach is to duplicate the mono surround channel and route the copies to channels 5 and 6, so that the exact same signal is sent to both SL and SR.
My question is: should each surround channel be attenuated by 3 dB in that case?
I can't remember whether the original mono surround channel in a 4.1 theatrical mix was already compensated for this, or whether modern AVRs apply their own level compensation when they distribute a single surround channel across left and right surrounds.
How do you usually handle this when converting a theatrical 4.1 mix to standard 5.1?
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Posted by: NICKeL3560 - 2026-06-21, 05:24 AM - Forum: Presentation
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Hello, my name is Nick and I am heavily intrigued and interested in all of the projects that are shared here, especially ones involving audio.
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| Superman Returns (35mm Regrade) |
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Posted by: CoruscantKnight - 2026-06-20, 05:45 PM - Forum: In progress
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With the 20th anniversary of Superman Returns on the horizon, it's fitting that I showcase and present another recolor project that I had been personally working on for quite some time. Superman Returns had a very unusual history when it came to its releases. The theatrical trailers and the film itself came out with color grades that are considered either too dim or concerning.
The 2006 home video releases (even the 2008 reissued Blu-Ray with a DTS-MA track) had recolored the picture, and made it look muddy and bland. While there were attempts to recolor the film over the years, I didn't see one where it looked like the original 35mm prints. There WAS a 35mm print for sale on eBay but it was sold and the one which is up now is concerning given the lack of photos.
And so I thought I'd take the matters in my own hands and do a 35mm regrade of the film. My intention for this project is to give this movie a more presentable and accessible outlook (with a better color grade) while giving back its 35mm look and feel. Hoping the film would fair better with fans and audiences than it is now.
Sources:
2006/2008 Blu-Ray Release
The open-matte version of the film
A scan of the trailer's 35mm print (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbQEc89Z6dA)
DrDre's color matching tool
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