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Thanks for picking this up again spoRv.
I think we should keep in mind that the 3D version removed the blue cast from the night scenes which was definitely present theatrically. So I think the 3D should be discounted as a source for shots like the one of Nedry. For this shot A2 is definitely best. I don't believe there should be any purple to it at all.
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So, "final" for all scenes except the night ones, which should use "a2"?
I agree that on night scenes, 3D doesn't work that good... I'd try to mix those night scenes with HDTV, to see a) colors b) improved brightness.
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Final is looking good for the other shots. Perhaps a touch too much pink in the sky in the gallimimus shot but if the goal is a happy medium between the 3DBD and the 35mm then I'd say you've nailed it.
How do these compare to the LD? I remember long ago we doing some comparisons and the LD had the night scenes looking pretty good (i.e. blue but not too blue like the 2DBD).
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I'm afraid I have deleted both the LD captures and my old project based on it... IIRC colors are similar to HDTV, more or less... Papai should chime in, he's the expert here!
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That 3d BD really is a mess
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I haven't watched JP3D for a while, I should check it out. I do know the glasses strip a lot of the brightness and saturation being polarised lenses.
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I had the fortune to see JP3D not just in 2D DCP during the theatrical run, but also at a later revival showing at a local science museum in 15/70 IMAX 2D (BTW, the degraining/EE looked quite gratuitous, probably compounded by the extra IMAX DMR processing; it felt quite surreal seeing fine 70mm grain on top of such a waxy digitally processed image). It definitely looked brighter in those formats. I remember it being warmer than the 2DBD version for sure.
And IIRC, the 3DBD looks worse than JP3D looked in theaters if you were watching in 2D without glasses like I did. I remember when I saw the screenshots I thought it was darker and had more of a blanket yellow-green tint than I remembered in my 2D showings.
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Though I only saw the 3D version during the re-release, and I saw it 5 times, I don't recall it being so reddish as in the 3D Blu-ray. It was certainly warm but not like the 3D BD. The 3D was very good.
As for the laserdisc, it looks almost the same as the DVD and the 2D Blu-ray; same magenta-blue push that is, along with flatter contrast. Andrea did good work over those sources. Where the LD gains is having the biggest open framing among all the home video versions.
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(2018-02-18, 07:33 PM)Papai2013 Wrote: Though I only saw the 3D version during the re-release, and I saw it 5 times, I don't recall it being so reddish as in the 3D Blu-ray. It was certainly warm but not like the 3D BD. The 3D was very good. I haven't seen the 3D blu-ray, but you're right. The 3D theatrical version didn't have an overly reddish colour tone.
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What's about this grading?
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/118524
It's pretty nice; someone is aware if this is an actual project, and, eventually, author or release name?
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