Ben-Hur (1959) [ML101525]

LDDb Wrote:The jacket states that the sound was matrix recorded from the original 6 track magnetic stereo masters.

Getting hold of this one would be awesome! The later 1994 MGM might have the remix that is on the DVDs and BD.

Don’t suppose anyone has the LD mono audio from the adventures of Robin Hood 1938? The blu ray has Dolby Digital.

(2020-02-20, 08:56 PM)alleycat Wrote: Don’t suppose anyone has the LD mono audio from the adventures of Robin Hood 1938? The blu ray has Dolby Digital.

I have it, but its not synced. Would you like me to upload it for you?

(2020-02-25, 03:33 PM)bronan Wrote:

(2020-02-20, 08:56 PM)alleycat Wrote: Don’t suppose anyone has the LD mono audio from the adventures of Robin Hood 1938? The blu ray has Dolby Digital.

I have it, but its not synced. Would you like me to upload it for you?

Thanks Bronan!

It must take forever to sync things in Resolve. Even creating comparison videos with it was a slog. Great for colour work, but for any sort of editing it's too sluggish.

My sync of Seven Samurai required ~800 edits, I think.

(2020-02-26, 07:04 PM)springfeel Wrote: well I haven't totally given up on they live, but if anyone wants to take over the project feel free

https://imgur.com/A11phCy

Are you syncing the StudioCanal remaster? It runs at 24fps so you will have to either speed up the LD or slowdown the movie. I usually slowdown the movie when I export the reference track to sync to with eac3to (something like "eac3to.exe mymovie.mkv 2: audiotrack_bd.wav -24.000 -changeTo23.976 -downStereo")

Edit: had the 24fps to 23.976 command wrong, updated it

In eac3to, -slowdown should be sufficient to handle the 24-to-23.976fps conversion: it works for both 24fps and 25fps sources (as long as you are demuxing from the container).

(2020-02-20, 08:00 PM)Chewtobacca Wrote: Ben-Hur (1959) [ML101525]

LDDb Wrote:The jacket states that the sound was matrix recorded from the original 6 track magnetic stereo masters.

Getting hold of this one would be awesome!  The later 1994 MGM might have the remix that is on the DVDs and BD.

I found this one for cheap, I assume it uses the same master since it came out around the same time: https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/45127/G98F5581/Ben-Hur

Need to get my old LD player out of storage and replace its belts though, my other player is probably nearing the end of its life.

The 1994 CAV box is the same as the earlier disc just better pressed in full CAV and with the extra docu. Essentially it's a CAV revisit much in the way that 2001 and Goldfinger were with slight video/color improvements as well. The audio seems identical and is also 2.0 matrixed. I'm quite amazed at how good the PQ is on both releases. I've always read of the remix changing stuff but all in all they seem to sound very similar across the board with minor fluctuations. I still think a direct hires transfer of the Oscar winning six track mag mix is in order since it's a huge leap forward in terms of surround mixing and extremely historically important for film sound.

I'm still amazed how you guys can do full film syncs like this especially across formats and fixing frame rates AND for epics like BH.

MGM did that on a number of titles at that time. They did it for GF starting on the Connery collection LD then kept it that way on all releases until the UE DVD had mono.

They also added stereo main titles to the letterboxed LD of north by Northwest.