2020-09-21, 11:01 AM
(This post was last modified: 2024-04-23, 08:43 AM by Kreeep.
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Okaaay. First release here, so go easy on us! The mission here is to hopefully provide the best possible viewing and listening experience of T2 that we can get, using the latest 2017 StudioCanal "remastered" transfer as the main source.
First, a big thank you and credit to @sanjuro_61 for his release of this film that we used as a basis to work from, found here: https://fanrestore.com/thread-2885.html
Further alterations from his release as follows:
v1.1 (THEATRICAL)
VIDEO
- Reinstated a single frame that was accidentally left out of the theatrical cut, rendering the audio out of sync by 42ms 18 minutes into the film in v1.0
AUDIO
- Encoded the Japanese CDS Mix 2003 into DTS-HD MA
VIDEO
- Painstaking regrading of the film, not just scene to scene but in some cases shot to shot or even single frames where necessary in order to restore the film to something closer to previous releases (This took a lonnng time!)
- Restored bendy knife in bar scene
- Restored stuntman's head in the slo-mo bike jump scene
- Replaced shots throughout film where lost detail could not be recovered from the 2017 transfer by using the 2015 Lionsgate transfer instead, with additional regrading to match the rest of the film
-- We decided to use the 2015 transfer for the first shot of the T800 crushing the skull with the pink lasers overhead, as removing the ridiculous amount of blue was not possible with the 2017 transfer
-- The lava at the end of the film has been turned to yellow with too much detail lost in the process, so the 2015 transfer was favoured in some shots
- Cropped a shot in the car after the Sarah Connor asylum breakout due to presence of border of projected backdrop being visible in 2017 transfer
- Inserting and regrading of Special Edition scenes to match the rest of the film
AUDIO (THEATRICAL)
- DTS-HD MA 5.1 (StudioCanal 2017)
- DTS-HD MA 5.1 (Lionsgate 2015)
- DTS-HD MA "6.1" (Skynet 2009)
- Dolby TrueHD 5.1 (Japanese Premium Edition 2008)
- DTS-HD MA 5.1 (French CDS Mix "Remaster" 2008)
- DTS 5.1 (Japanese CDS Mix 2003) [Thanks to @Chewtobacca for his resync of this]
So, I'm not completely happy with the sync up of the 2008 CDS "Remaster" audio, but it's as good as I can get it really and is still very watchable. If anyone else wants to have a crack, go nuts.
AUDIO (SPECIAL EDITION)
- DTS-HD MA 7.1 (Ultimate Lionsgate Hybrid 2020)
- DTS-HD MA 7.1 (Ultimate Premium CDS Lionsgate Hybrid 2020)
- DTS-HD MA 5.1 (Premium CDS Lionsgate Hybrid 2020)
- DTS-HD MA 5.1 (Lionsgate 2015)
- DTS-HD MA "6.1" (Skynet 2009)
- Dolby TrueHD 5.1 (Japanese Premium Edition 2008)
They botched the timing of the Special Edition scenes with the StudioCanal 2017 audio, so I didn't include it.
The top three tracks for SE, I put together myself.
For whatever reason, the 2017 StudioCanal release features a 5.1 English track, and a 7.1 German track. No 7.1 in English. Luckily, an English DTS-HD HR 7.1 track exists on the 2008 German Ultimate Edition release of the film on HD-DVD, which @Kurtos graciously provided me with. What a rarity!
I found that the volume of the German Ultimate Edition 7.1 was set too high, "brickwalling" it more so than other remixes, so I took the additional surrounds from the German Ultimate Edition 7.1 and synced and lowered the volume accordingly to match the Lionsgate L, R, C, LFE and rear surround channels, which are identical more or less to the German Ultimate Edition anyway, but with a higher bitrate and less brickwalled. So if you want a remixed 7.1 experience, the first track is probably the way to go.
The third track is the theatrical CDS Mix taken from the 2003 Japanese DVD, with Lionsgate 2015 L, R, C and LFE spliced in for SE scenes. I took the surrounds from the Dolby TrueHD 5.1 Japanese Premium Edition for SE scenes, as their volume levels matched more closely to the CDS Mix without any need for editing. Other than the volume being lower on the Dolby TrueHD rear channels, they're identical to the Lionsgate. This is as close as it gets to watching the film with original audio, if you're interested in SE.
The second track is the CDS Mix L, R, C and LFE channels. with Lionsgate 2015 SE scenes spliced in for L, R, C and LFE, combined with Lionsgate 2015 for rear surround channels, and the additional surrounds from the German Ultimate Edition, with volume adjusted accordingly to match the CDS. Most people would consider this blasphemous, but if you want that original mix with 7.1, use this
I have the Lionsgate 2015 5.1 audio as the default selected track.
Sorry if any of that was confusing. Just message if you want any further clarification.
SCREENSHOTS
https://imgur.com/gallery/X23ZpTY
If you're interested in either the theatrical or special edition, feel free to PM me
Keep in mind, they're both over 60gb each. If file size is an issue, you can always shave off a fair bit by removing whatever audio tracks you don't want. I also made some lighter encodes of each version too.
First, a big thank you and credit to @sanjuro_61 for his release of this film that we used as a basis to work from, found here: https://fanrestore.com/thread-2885.html
Further alterations from his release as follows:
v1.1 (THEATRICAL)
VIDEO
- Reinstated a single frame that was accidentally left out of the theatrical cut, rendering the audio out of sync by 42ms 18 minutes into the film in v1.0
AUDIO
- Encoded the Japanese CDS Mix 2003 into DTS-HD MA
VIDEO
- Painstaking regrading of the film, not just scene to scene but in some cases shot to shot or even single frames where necessary in order to restore the film to something closer to previous releases (This took a lonnng time!)
- Restored bendy knife in bar scene
- Restored stuntman's head in the slo-mo bike jump scene
- Replaced shots throughout film where lost detail could not be recovered from the 2017 transfer by using the 2015 Lionsgate transfer instead, with additional regrading to match the rest of the film
-- We decided to use the 2015 transfer for the first shot of the T800 crushing the skull with the pink lasers overhead, as removing the ridiculous amount of blue was not possible with the 2017 transfer
-- The lava at the end of the film has been turned to yellow with too much detail lost in the process, so the 2015 transfer was favoured in some shots
- Cropped a shot in the car after the Sarah Connor asylum breakout due to presence of border of projected backdrop being visible in 2017 transfer
- Inserting and regrading of Special Edition scenes to match the rest of the film
AUDIO (THEATRICAL)
- DTS-HD MA 5.1 (StudioCanal 2017)
- DTS-HD MA 5.1 (Lionsgate 2015)
- DTS-HD MA "6.1" (Skynet 2009)
- Dolby TrueHD 5.1 (Japanese Premium Edition 2008)
- DTS-HD MA 5.1 (French CDS Mix "Remaster" 2008)
- DTS 5.1 (Japanese CDS Mix 2003) [Thanks to @
So, I'm not completely happy with the sync up of the 2008 CDS "Remaster" audio, but it's as good as I can get it really and is still very watchable. If anyone else wants to have a crack, go nuts.
AUDIO (SPECIAL EDITION)
- DTS-HD MA 7.1 (Ultimate Lionsgate Hybrid 2020)
- DTS-HD MA 7.1 (Ultimate Premium CDS Lionsgate Hybrid 2020)
- DTS-HD MA 5.1 (Premium CDS Lionsgate Hybrid 2020)
- DTS-HD MA 5.1 (Lionsgate 2015)
- DTS-HD MA "6.1" (Skynet 2009)
- Dolby TrueHD 5.1 (Japanese Premium Edition 2008)
They botched the timing of the Special Edition scenes with the StudioCanal 2017 audio, so I didn't include it.
The top three tracks for SE, I put together myself.
For whatever reason, the 2017 StudioCanal release features a 5.1 English track, and a 7.1 German track. No 7.1 in English. Luckily, an English DTS-HD HR 7.1 track exists on the 2008 German Ultimate Edition release of the film on HD-DVD, which @Kurtos graciously provided me with. What a rarity!
I found that the volume of the German Ultimate Edition 7.1 was set too high, "brickwalling" it more so than other remixes, so I took the additional surrounds from the German Ultimate Edition 7.1 and synced and lowered the volume accordingly to match the Lionsgate L, R, C, LFE and rear surround channels, which are identical more or less to the German Ultimate Edition anyway, but with a higher bitrate and less brickwalled. So if you want a remixed 7.1 experience, the first track is probably the way to go.
The third track is the theatrical CDS Mix taken from the 2003 Japanese DVD, with Lionsgate 2015 L, R, C and LFE spliced in for SE scenes. I took the surrounds from the Dolby TrueHD 5.1 Japanese Premium Edition for SE scenes, as their volume levels matched more closely to the CDS Mix without any need for editing. Other than the volume being lower on the Dolby TrueHD rear channels, they're identical to the Lionsgate. This is as close as it gets to watching the film with original audio, if you're interested in SE.
The second track is the CDS Mix L, R, C and LFE channels. with Lionsgate 2015 SE scenes spliced in for L, R, C and LFE, combined with Lionsgate 2015 for rear surround channels, and the additional surrounds from the German Ultimate Edition, with volume adjusted accordingly to match the CDS. Most people would consider this blasphemous, but if you want that original mix with 7.1, use this
I have the Lionsgate 2015 5.1 audio as the default selected track.
Sorry if any of that was confusing. Just message if you want any further clarification.
SCREENSHOTS
https://imgur.com/gallery/X23ZpTY
If you're interested in either the theatrical or special edition, feel free to PM me
Keep in mind, they're both over 60gb each. If file size is an issue, you can always shave off a fair bit by removing whatever audio tracks you don't want. I also made some lighter encodes of each version too.
