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[Idea] TROY (2004) - Replace Score in Director's Cut
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TROY has two different cuts: theatrical cut and director's cut. The general consensus seems to revolve around the director's cut being a better film in every way, except for the score. Most of the score in the director's cut has been replaced with inferior music, often undermining the film and distracting viewers. I thought it might be a cool idea for someone to take the director's cut and replace the score with the original theatrical cut's music. Would anyone have any interest in doing a project like this?
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James Horner's score was written so late in production that no original music exists for those deleted scenes. But I wonder if Gabriel Yared scored a few of those director's cut moments.
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I think Yared may have scored part of the DC, but I am not sure. I would think that the theatrical score would only be restored to the scenes that are featured in the theatrical cut, such as the opening sequence and the Achilles fight.
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The scene where they used the music from The Planet of the Apes (2001) was so bad. Would love it if someone could rescore this.
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Two years after this thread, which I only saw via Google search, I've actually done all of this as it was something I'd wanted to do for many, many years and the technology caught up enough to enable me to do it.

I've never made a post here offering a fan edit project, so I'll have to read up on how to do so in terms of making it available.
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(2025-05-07, 03:28 AM)NL197 Wrote: Two years after this thread, which I only saw via Google search, I've actually done all of this as it was something I'd wanted to do for many, many years and the technology caught up enough to enable me to do it.

I've never made a post here offering a fan edit project, so I'll have to read up on how to do so in terms of making it available.
Wow, congrats.

In which format did you encode the audio?
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I used the Director's Cut Blu-ray's PCM 5.1 track as a source, along with the 2017 2-disc Intrada presentation of the score album.

I saved it as a 24-bit FLAC 5.1 file, a Dolby Digital AC3 file (640kbps) and a DTS 5.1 file (1536kbps)
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Obviously the directors cut cannot fit the score as written, therefore I did have to do a LOT of editorial changes to make the music work (looping certain areas, overlapping others) and the end result is that it’s still heavily edited, but the music is back where it was generally meant to be originally.

There are moments where the audio is very quiet, but the director's cut was like that in places compared to the theatrical.

The list of cues I put back are the following:

(Intrada 2-disc album cue titles)

Call for Achilles (theatrical had more presence than director's, but I also left the film's opening alone because I find it worked better than the wailing vocals that open the theatrical cut)

Never Hesitate (replaced the 'Count of Monte Cristo' music. Had to loop this in places to make it work, and added some 'Call for Achilles' as an open)

A Dark Past, A Glorious Future (weaved some of this in and out of the intended scene, where Achilles and his mother speak of his destiny)

The Myrmidons, part 1 (just the opening horn call)

The Myrmidons, part 2 (restored as much of this cue to the scene as possible, because most of it was replaced in the director's cut with 'A Trojan Victory, part 2')

Additional detail:
The moment where Achilles races up the temple steps slaughtering Trojans was my favorite moment of the entire score, and that was completely replaced in the director's cut so I had to put it back in.

The Temple Fight (replaced tracked music from 'The Myrmidons, part 2')

Briseis Taken (restored this to the scene, replacing what was tracked in from The Temple Fight)

Achilles Saves Briseis (restored the first half of this cue, but could not restore the big climax because this sex scene went on longer than in the theatrical cut, so it would not work. The consequence of this is the music is repeated, but not really a problem.)

Mistaken Identity (much of this was chopped up and also replaced in the director's cut, so I put as much of it back as I could)

Hector's Farewells (replaced the tracked in piece from 'A Dark Past, A Glorious Future)

Single Combat (replaced the Planet of the Apes music for the duel, and the Starship Troopers music for when Achilles ties Hector’s legs to his chariot to drag him away)

Priam Takes Briseis (replaced the oft-used 'Achilles Saves Briseis' which was used repeatedly in the director's cut)

The Wooden Horse / The Sacking of Troy (much of this was replaced with tracked material from 'A Dark Past, A Glorious Future', 'A Trojan Victory parts 1 and 2', 'The Myrmidons' part 2' and others so I put as much of the theatrical music back in where I could to those corresponding scenes in the director's cut.)

The ending of the film did not fit the music as I needed it to, so I had to do a major cut to bring out the end of Achilles and the surviving Trojans moving on from their burning city (replacing 'Achilles Saves Briseis' tracked into this scene).

I'm not completely satisfied with it but I did do what I could to make the credits synchronize with the score.

The song "Remember Me" wasn't going to be in there but I decided do use my remix of it, and the remaining material was added to fill the gap of time in the credits with something similar and appropriate musically.

All of that replaced the use of 'A Dark Past, A Glorious Future' for the credits themselves along with an edited piece of 'The Sacking of Troy'.

The title 'A Dark Past, A Glorious Future' is not one found on the 2017 Intrada 2-disc album, because it was one of two cues (the other is titled 'Stealing Helen') that were left off that release due to copyright issues.

Both of those cues were cut together and edited down considerably for the OST, and simply titled 'Troy' on that album, and the full cue is heard over the end credits of the director's cut on disc.
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