btw the DTS stereo on the UHD is out of sync. You'll have to add a +53ms delay to it to match up with the original lower bitrate track on the bluray.

Some relatives I have have an Asian DVD of Scarface in DD 4.0. And it's NTSC.

Too bad I can't borrow discs from them. But it may be available in Asia. It should be in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea.

(2025-06-22, 07:17 AM)Hydra Spectre Wrote: Some relatives I have have an Asian DVD of Scarface in DD 4.0. And it's NTSC.

Too bad I can't borrow discs from them. But it may be available in Asia. It should be in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea.

Are they not able to rip it for you?

(2025-06-22, 08:31 AM)alexp2000 Wrote:

(2025-06-22, 07:17 AM)Hydra Spectre Wrote: Some relatives I have have an Asian DVD of Scarface in DD 4.0. And it's NTSC.

Too bad I can't borrow discs from them. But it may be available in Asia. It should be in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea.

Are they not able to rip it for you?

They don't have working DVD players anymore, or PCs with disc drives. Even if they have a boatload of DVDs there.
I can't even go there and bring a laptop with a DVD drive, because I don't have one.

You can get a USB DVD drive for almost nothing nowadays. Although tbh you might as well spend more and get something to rip UHDs.

Sorry for the necrobump but I have acquired a copy of the original 4.0 but it has seemingly been encoded with the either the incorrect channel mapping or something else, this layout doesn't look like the usual LCRS stereo and resembles LRLsRs quadraphonic more. Perhaps this mix is meant to be in this format but I have no idea.


Also going back to Stamper's old claim of the center channel being "doctored" (whatever that means). It seems that entire DTS 5.1 track from the Anniversary Edition is decoded from a matrixed stereo source, it's also worth noting the LFE on it is entirely blank. I think this track isn't a remix at all and is rather a decode from a stereo source to a more modern channel layout. The center channel thing *might* be true as the surround channels have weird bits missing in their spectrograms. BTW if anyone has this DVD it syncs to the 4K Master with a 83ms delay if you want a quick and dirty discrete OG mix.


Edit: Nevermind the center channel thing is definitely not true, when I folded the surround channels together into one mono track the spectrogram was complete fixed

(Yesterday, 12:14 AM)izzybell Wrote: Sorry for the necrobump but I have acquired a copy of the original 4.0 but it has seemingly been encoded with the either the incorrect channel mapping or something else, this layout doesn't look like the usual LCRS stereo and resembles LRLsRs quadraphonic more. Perhaps this mix is meant to be in this format but I have no idea.


Also going back to Stamper's old claim of the center channel being "doctored" (whatever that means). It seems that entire DTS 5.1 track from the Anniversary Edition is decoded from a matrixed stereo source, it's also worth noting the LFE on it is entirely blank. I think this track isn't a remix at all and is rather a decode from a stereo source to a more modern channel layout. The center channel thing *might* be true as the surround channels have weird bits missing in their spectrograms. BTW if anyone has this DVD it syncs to the 4K Master with a 83ms delay if you want a quick and dirty discrete OG mix.


Edit: Nevermind the center channel thing is definitely not true, when I folded the surround channels together into one mono track the spectrogram was complete fixed

Cool you found that. BTW How did you find the 4.0 mix?

some torrent on the internet, again I believe the AE DVD DTS 5.1 is a more accurate rendering of the track and probably the best sounding on since its NTSC half-rate DTS instead of PAL Dolby Digital