Looking for the "right" Terminator 2 color grading...

[Stamper]

Didn't stereoD do Clash of the Titans? Why are they doing the Cameron films then? Makes no sense.

[zoidberg]

Clash of the Titans was done by Prime Focus in something ridiculous like 8 weeks.

[Koopa Luath]

And then they went on to do beautiful conversions for The Wizard of Oz and Gravity.

[Beber]

Just got back from my screening of T2 3D.

Pros :
- colorwise, on the whole, it's a better match to my recollection of the 35mm print I saw in 2014: cyan, purple.
- the 3D made most of the rear projection effects look better.
- a couple nice 3D effects when a shotgun is poiting towards the audience, especially when it comes out the roses box.

Cons :
- picture is way too scrubed, overfiltered. Not to the extent of Predator UHE, but still. Actually, the 1st time we see Silberman's wrinkled face, it did remind me the general's face at the beginning of Predator UHE. Holly crap, that bulldog is not pretty.
- colorwise, it lacked a touch of purple here and there, though it was definitely here mostly inside Cyberdyne vault and lab. It was also too orange in the steel factory. I have a very vivid memory of a very yellow with almost no orange at all in a very particular shot, and what I saw tonight didn't match that. And I feel it lacked a touch of gold and brown warmth in the desert scenes, at Enrique's place.
- as I expected, the 3D was mostly useless.
- the audio sounded just like the most recent Blu-ray. I wish they had returned to the CDS mix for the use of the 5.1 channel separation, at least for the music, and to the Skynet Edition just for the in-your-face raygun blast a T-800 shoots at the audience in the future war beginning sequence.

EDIT :
I almost forgot on the cons side : the truck and bike chase scene in the "reservoir" (I guess that's what you call that): the stuntman has a digital Arnold's face now, as others mentionned, in every shot. And on top of the windshield not dropping off anymore, they digitally enhanced the erasing of the cables that sustained the T-800' bike when he jumps below. Before this remaster, we could still see the erased area where the cables were. So now, that's how T2 will be for future generations. The actual original will no longer be available for TV airings and screenings, just like Aliens and Titanic, I guess. T2 is no longer a 1991 movie.

[Stamper]

My mistake, yes Prime Focus really F up Clash, but then the film ain't a masterpiece either.

I agree the desert scene looks a bit too cold, no idea why. I think from my recollections the factory scene are like they were in 70mm.

So you would do a mix that... mixes the different mixes? Interesting idea.

[dvdmike]

Just got back from my screening of T2 3D.

Pros :
- colorwise, on the whole, it's a better match to my recollection of the 35mm print I saw in 2014: cyan, purple.
- the 3D made most of the rear projection effects look better.
- a couple nice 3D effects when a shotgun is poiting towards the audience, especially when it comes out the roses box.

Cons :
- picture is way too scrubed, overfiltered. Not to the extent of Predator UHE, but still. Actually, the 1st time we see Silberman's wrinkled face, it did remind me the general's face at the beginning of Predator UHE. Holly crap, that bulldog is not pretty.
- colorwise, it lacked a touch of purple here and there, though it was definitely here mostly inside Cyberdyne vault and lab. It was also too orange in the steel factory. I have a very vivid memory of a very yellow with almost no orange at all in a very particular shot, and what I saw tonight didn't match that. And I feel it lacked a touch of gold and brown warmth in the desert scenes, at Enrique's place.
- as I expected, the 3D was mostly useless.
- the audio sounded just like the most recent Blu-ray. I wish they had returned to the CDS mix for the use of the 5.1 channel separation, at least for the music, and to the Skynet Edition just for the in-your-face raygun blast a T-800 shoots at the audience in the future war beginning sequence.

EDIT :
I almost forgot on the cons side : the truck and bike chase scene in the "reservoir" (I guess that's what you call that): the stuntman has a digital Arnold's face now, as others mentionned, in every shot. And on top of the windshield not dropping off anymore, they digitally enhanced the erasing of the cables that sustained the T-800' bike when he jumps below. Before this remaster, we could still see the erased area where the cables were. So now, that's how T2 will be for future generations. The actual original will no longer be available for TV airings and screenings, just like Aliens and Titanic, I guess. T2 is no longer a 1991 movie.

The CDS mix like the T1 mono mix is dead and gone sadly

Gary is a nightmare

[Koopa Luath]

Best you can get for the CDS mix is the DD 5.1 track on the DVD or laser videodisc, unfortunately. When I make my own restoration, I'm going to do the best with what I've got as far as restoring the track goes.

[zoidberg]

It didn't sound like the Rydstrom remix to me, it sounded more like the squeeze ld/live dvd (and I went twice). The music had that quad feel and it didn't have the extra surround activity of the home mix. And boy was it loud.
Most likely the new blu will have the Rydstrom remix though, after all it's 'optimised' for the home. Unless lionsgate/studiocanal pull a criterion and include the theatrical audio (like with The Game).

[Bigrob]

heads up

The Prince Charles Cinema in London will be screening a 70mm print on 3rd Jan

[zoidberg]

They're screening it all month! I must go