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Looking for the "right" Terminator 2 color grading...
For a fair comparison, you'd need to make a BT.709 conversion of the colorspace (if that is possible!), 'cause those prics are from a UHD Blu-ray HDR.
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(2018-03-25, 08:17 PM)Beber Wrote: For a fair comparison, you'd need to make a BT.709 conversion of the colorspace (if that is possible!), 'cause those prics are from a UHD Blu-ray HDR.

Image looks completely different if I play just the file, or the complete Disc... Shocked

Damn... when playing the Disc, PowerDVD does not want to make any screencaps... Cry


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That really seems no easy task to make an adequate screenshot from an UHD HDR10 source...
Someone any ideas. I tried PowerDVD17 Ultra and MPC so far...
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(2018-03-25, 08:26 PM)MrBrown Wrote:
(2018-03-25, 08:17 PM)Beber Wrote: For a fair comparison, you'd need to make a BT.709 conversion of the colorspace (if that is possible!), 'cause those prics are from a UHD Blu-ray HDR.

Image looks completely different if I play just the file, or the complete Disc... Shocked

Damn... when playing the Disc, PowerDVD does not want to make any screencaps... Cry


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That really seems no easy task to make an adequate screenshot from an UHD HDR10 source...
Someone any ideas. I tried PowerDVD17 Ultra and MPC so far...

Try using MadVR with MPC Smile

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Okay, thanks a lot, that's close to the "play without HDR" setting of PowerDVD, but still does not nail it completely. But I think it is the closest I will get at the moment.

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How are you finding UHD so far MrBrown?
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I have no capable display, and the PC seems not to be able to bring HDR to capable TV (tested with a friends UHD HDR TV), but even downscaled and to normal color range the UHD seems really nice.
I think, next time I need to buy a new TV for my home, I jump on the UHD HDR display train. Along with a Player.

Using my (few) UHD BDs on my PC is a bit a pain in the ass:
I have a PC, that is able to read UHD BD discs, but not capable of playing UHD Video, and I have a PC that is capable of play UHD Video, but not able to read the UHD BD discs.
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(2017-09-14, 11:42 PM)Beber Wrote: Just got back from my screening of T2 3D.

Pros :
- colorwise, on the whole, it's a better match to my recollection of the 35mm print I saw in 2014: cyan, purple.
- the 3D made most of the rear projection effects look better.
- a couple nice 3D effects when a shotgun is poiting towards the audience, especially when it comes out the roses box.

Cons :
- picture is way too scrubed, overfiltered. Not to the extent of Predator UHE, but still. Actually, the 1st time we see Silberman's wrinkled face, it did remind me the general's face at the beginning of Predator UHE. Holly crap, that bulldog is not pretty.
- colorwise, it lacked a touch of purple here and there, though it was definitely here mostly inside Cyberdyne vault and lab. It was also too orange in the steel factory. I have a very vivid memory of a very yellow with almost no orange at all in a very particular shot, and what I saw tonight didn't match that. And I feel it lacked a touch of gold and brown warmth in the desert scenes, at Enrique's place.
- as I expected, the 3D was mostly useless.
- the audio sounded just like the most recent Blu-ray. I wish they had returned to the CDS mix for the use of the 5.1 channel separation, at least for the music, and to the Skynet Edition just for the in-your-face raygun blast a T-800 shoots at the audience in the future war beginning sequence.

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I almost forgot on the cons side : the truck and bike chase scene in the "reservoir" (I guess that's what you call that): the stuntman has a digital Arnold's face now, as others mentionned, in every shot. And on top of the windshield not dropping off anymore, they digitally enhanced the erasing of the cables that sustained the T-800' bike when he jumps below. Before this remaster, we could still see the erased area where the cables were. So now, that's how T2 will be for future generations. The actual original will no longer be available for TV airings and screenings, just like Aliens and Titanic, I guess. T2 is no longer a 1991 movie.

There you go! It's already in motion: Arte, in France, just showed the remaster a couple of days ago.
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I watched it on Arte, I feel the face replacements during the canal chase are obvious they look cartoony, especialy the shot when the bike goes down in slow motion, and the explosion. The side replacement when Arnie picks up the kid is OK, alas the color correction doesn't match.

Interestingly, on the LDs, the face of Arnie when the bike goes down look real, much more real than this obvious face paste digital trick.
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(2019-02-12, 10:25 PM)Stamper Wrote: I watched it on Arte, I feel the face replacements during the canal chase are obvious they look cartoony, especialy the shot when the bike goes down in slow motion, and the explosion. The side replacement when Arnie picks up the kid is OK, alas the color correction doesn't match.

Interestingly, on the LDs, the face of Arnie when the bike goes down look real, much more real than this obvious face paste digital trick.

The problem with the CGI Arnold head is that it basically does this lol:

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I was watching some LD rips someone upped online, it's so crazy that with LD low resolution, you couldn't see the face of the rider wasn't his, on the jump or the explosion! Nice soundmixes btw, which I will sync once I'm done with T1 syncs.
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