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[No Longer Available] Alien Regrade (Fox THX Laserdisc)
(2015-12-12, 03:21 AM)jerryshadoe Wrote: Have only one question: Why is OT being "advertised" on the cover? I thought these releases weren't suppose to be associated with fanres or OT; or is it just fanres?

As for OT, that's not for me to decide. If you want to know if it's okay, you should ask one of OT.com moderators.

As for Fanres, I honestly don't know. The rules Andrea has made don't say anything about it, but I don't believe he ever advertised Fanres in his releases. It doesn't matter I guess, Fanres isn't responsible for content put on torrent sites by its members.
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Well, the only reason I brought this up is because I was under the impression that "we" (the community) don't want to attract too much attention (of the "wrong" kind) to fanres, since we are working in a very gray area of legality and a connection between the two can easily be found if someone looks. I'm just trying to stay on the cautious side by raising the question to you guysWink

EDIT: It just that I have always wondered where "the line" is drawn...
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It should be alright, a couple of sites have linked to OT when talking about the Despecialized Editions, and nothing's happened.

Anyway, I've had another idea - a pointless one, but an idea. Perhaps we could make a new sound mix incorporating Jerry Goldsmith's original musical score? It goes beyond the purpose of the regrade itself, but it'd be a nice touch. Maybe if we did it for some other release?
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(2015-12-12, 02:17 PM)FrankT Wrote: Perhaps we could make a new sound mix incorporating Jerry Goldsmith's original musical score? It goes beyond the purpose of the regrade itself, but it'd be a nice touch.

I would love to see that, too.  I would love to see the music be performed live to the film.

But, there is one thing to consider.

When Goldsmith wrote and recorded his music, he was working off an edit of the film that was different from the theatrical cut.  After the music recording sessions ended, the filmmakers re-edited the film.  As a result, the music didn’t fit the new edits, so, instead of allowing Goldsmith to re-write music for the new edits, the filmmakers re-cut and re-arranged the music that was already recorded.

In fact, in the scene at the infirmary where Dallas and Ash observe the comatose Kane with the face-hugger alien, I’ve noticed several edits to the music that were made just as one shot changes to another shot. These music cuts occur in the following:

• From the shot of Ash pressing buttons to open a wide glass door to accept a comatose Kane to the shot of a group of crew members—Ripley, Parker, Lambert, and Brett—looking on through the glass pane.

• From the shot of comatose Kane, laying on a table, being loaded into a compartment to the shot of Ash and Dallas, in near silhouette, looking on at the wide compartment where Kane lays—it’s in that shot where Ash instructs Dallas to remove his breathing mask.

These edits would suggest that the scene was originally longer.   One would need to know, at least, every note of that music cue-from beginning to end-to notice.  Apparently, when preparing the final cut of the film, a new music track was not prepared to accommodate the new edits of this scene. It was a quick hack job.  If you watch the film with the isolated music score track on, either on the 1999 DVD or the Blu Ray, you’ll notice that most of the music cues do not fit the scenes that were placed under. In that isolated music track, the music cue for that said scene is presented in its entirety--no edits.

So, my thinking is that to do the music justice, you would have to have the working edit of the film that Goldsmith used to write his music.

For that 2003 theatrical re-release of the film, what Scott and Fox should have done was devote their resources to restoring that working cut instead of doing a faux “director’s cut.”  By presenting the working cut, Goldsmith’s music score can be heard in its entirety and to examine what impact the composer would have achieved with each scene.
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A better isolated soundtrack was part of the plan from the get go. Also part of the Blade Runner.

Problem was I never got the materials to work with and with all the soundtracks I have there is not a lot of space to work with at this point, unless I go to 50GB.
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PDB, I posted it on OT and I'll repost it here too...

Quote:A long time ago I caught on Italian TV an odd broadcast of Alien: it was clearly from the bluray version (as people confirmed here on OT), but it had 1979 localized titles and end credits (in Italian). The odd thing is that Blurays, just like DVDs, all come from the American master of the films, so seeing the titles and credits translated as they appeared in theaters in Italy in 1979 is a thing that does not happen on HD media (only VHS versions came from film transfer with the italian credits).

You might wonder… who gives a s**it, right? Turns out that Italian TV channels (a friend of mine works in one) received a copy of Alien from FOX, this copy was made by stitching the intro titles and the end credits of the film onto the well-known Bluray version (so the film itself is actually from BR but the titles and credits from 1979 film).
That’s why when I asked confirmation by posting screengrabs of the film, people here told me “that’s a BR version”. The interesting part is that, while the end credits are on black background (therefore useless for color regrading purposes), the intro with the panning on the planet has (as you well know) colors, and since some of you are trying to regrade the BR to the original look, I thought that you might be interested in having a look at the intro scene from the TV broadcast version I recorded since it comes from 1979 print (for the planet scene and the first shot of the Nostromo, which is very blue by the way).

Let me know if it can be of any help, even if you just want to compare it with the already acquired material.
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The "completest" in me wants to see this different footage, if for nothing else than a comparison. If it's not too much trouble, could you maybe post some screenshots?
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(2015-12-20, 01:25 AM)jerryshadoe Wrote: The "completest" in me wants to see this different footage, if for nothing else than a comparison. If it's not too much trouble, could you maybe post some screenshots?

No problem, here's some pictures I uploaded just now
https://img42.com/collection/qLVd7
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Thanx for posting those. Wish there was more to go by there, but these are interesting.

The four that stood out the most are these:

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Curious what other think about this...
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I can post more... but it's still the same pan on the same static planet Tongue
The rest of the film is from bluray, only where Italian titles are shown it's guaranteed to come from scans of the original film that showed in theaters. End credits are on black background so not really anything to go for. The only thing that can be compared is the intro
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