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#31
2017-12-15, 07:40 AM (This post was last modified: 2017-12-15, 07:43 AM by SpaceBlackKnight.)
Regarding the 1997 George of The Jungle, the LD, R2 DVDs and streaming versions are 1.85 of course, but they're obviously masked to that ratio (which is correct for most flat films shot this way) as the US full screen VHS and DVD is opened up all the way, even the CGI shots with the animals IIRC!

The VHS and fullscreen DVD of Flubber (1997) is only cropped for the VFX/optical shots, but unmatted for most of the interior and wide shots. FYI, the Fullscreen versions of E.T and Harry and the Hendersons were also done this way as well.
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#32
2018-01-24, 11:25 AM
Another thing I want to add: there are VERY RARE fullscreen 1.33:1 versions in fullHD - I'm talking about movies released in widescreen in theaters!

Keep an eye (or, better, both) open and, if you spot one, just grab it! Wink

EDIT: always check if it's a real fullscreen version (read: the same as found as on DVD, for example), or just cropped on all sides, as the following (Total Recall)...

[Image: Total_Recall_HDTV.jpg]
[Image: Total_Recall_DVD_fullscreen.jpg]

OK, maybe the HDTV could be of some use, having more resolution than upscaled DVD, but as it's so cropped, probably the BD included the same portion of the image, with much more quality.
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#33
2018-01-28, 11:39 AM
Some discoveries found during the last weeks.

Resident Evil saga

Resident Evil - OAR 1.85:1

FS: DVD, arab HDTV recording - it was broadcasted as anamorphic 720p (even if the page title suggests there was a 1080 version); it is "simply" squeezed vertically, so when restored to proper aspect ratio, it would be 1280x960, as following:
[Image: RE_FS_HD.jpg]
quality is not that great at the end, as it's heavily compressed, and it has obstrusive arab hardsubs
OM: BD (Poland)
OAR: BD, DVD
Resident Evil: Apocalypse - OAR 2.40:1

FS: DVD
OM: BD (Benelux, Poland) but the master suffers from field blending; HDTV (with, and without logo), without this problem; DVD
OAR: BD, DVD
Resident Evil: Extinction - OAR 2.40:1

FS: SDTV (don't know if DVD exists)
OM: HDTV (with logo)
OAR: BD, DVD

note: the old color grading found on DVD seems to exist on OAR only.
[Image: RE3_old_vs_new_grading.jpg]
Resident Evil: Afterlife - OAR 2.40:1

FS (mostly cropped): SDTV (don't know if DVD exists)
OM (mostly cropped, OM open titles): arab HDTV recording (comparison)
the few open matte shots seems to be confined to the first 6m15s, to Alice video diary shots, and few others[Image: 5561c8da1972a.jpg]
OM (mostly cropped, LB open titles): WEB, HDTV -  have the first five minutes letterboxed; the few open matte shots seems to be confined from 5m00s to 6m15s, to Alice video diary shots, and few others; more info will follow in the RE thread.
OAR: UHD-BD, BD, DVD

Note: the new grading found on BD seems to be available in OAR only.
[Image: RE4_old_vs_new_grading.jpg]
Resident Evil: Retribution - OAR 2.40:1

FS: none found
OM: WEB, HDTV
OAR: BD, DVD
Resident Evil: The Final Chapter - OAR 2.40:1

FS: none found
OM: none found
OAR: UHD-BD, BD, WEB, DVD
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#34
2018-01-28, 11:47 AM
Matrix saga
The Matrix - OAR 2.40:1

old grading
FS: VCD, ATV (I'm pretty sure DVD was released, a confirmation is needed though!)
OM: HDTV
OAR: DVD

new grading
FS: DTV
OM: WEB
OAR: BD
The Matrix Reloaded - OAR 2.40:1

FS: DVD
OM: WEB
OAR: BD
The Matrix Revolutions - OAR 2.40:1

FS: DVD
OM: WEB
OAR: BD
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#35
2018-01-28, 11:54 AM
Pirates of the Caribbean saga
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl - OAR 2.40:1 original aspect ratio

FS: none known
OM: HDTV, WEB
OAR: BD, DVD
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - OAR 2.40:1 original aspect ratio

FS: SDTV
OM: HDTV, WEB
OAR: BD, DVD
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End - OAR 2.40:1 original aspect ratio

FS: SDTV (CROPPED!)
OM: HDTV, WEB
OAR: BD, DVD
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - OAR 2.40:1 original aspect ratio

FS: none known
OM: HDTV
OAR: BD, DVD
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - OAR 2.40:1 original aspect ratio

FS: none known
OM: WEB
OAR: BD, DVD
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#36
2018-01-28, 12:33 PM
Alien & Predator saga
Alien - OAR 2.40:1

P&S: LD, VHS; maybe DVD?
OM: none known
OAR: BD, WEB, HDTV, DVD, VHS; WEB, D-Theater (less cropped)
Aliens - OAR 1.85:1

FS: LD, ATV; maybe DVD?
OM: HDTV (theatrical cut)
OAR: BD, WEB, HDTV, DVD, VHS
Alien³ - OAR 2.40:1

P&S: LD, VHS; maybe DVD?
OM: HDTV (theatrical cut) (cropped, but with few lines of resolution more o
OAR: BD, WEB, HDTV, DVD, VHS
Alien: Resurrection - OAR 2.40:1

FS: VHS (cropped, don't know if for the whole film, though); maybe DVD?
OM: HDTV
OAR: BD, WEB, HDTV, DVD, VHS
Prometheus - OAR 2.40:1

FS: none known
OM: HDTV, WEB
OAR: BD, DVD
Alien: Covenant - OAR 2.40:1

FS: none known
OM (some shots IMAX): HDTV, WEB
OAR: BD, DVD

AVP: Alien Vs Predator - OAR 2.40:1

FS: DVD
OM: HDTV
OAR: BD, WEB, HDTV, DVD
Aliens Vs Predator - OAR 2.40:1

FS: none known
OM: HDTV, WEB
OAR: BD, DVD
Predator - OAR 1.85:1

FS: DVD
OM: HDTV, WEB(?)
OAR: BD, WEB, DVD
Predator 2 - OAR 1.85:1

FS: DVD
OM: HDTV
OAR: BD (cropped on all sides), DVD

Predators - OAR 2.40:1

FS: none known
OM: HDTV, WEB
OAR: BD, DVD
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#37
2018-01-28, 12:51 PM
Terminator saga
Terminator - OAR 1.85:1

FS: VHS(?), DVD(?), ATV
OM 1.66:1: DVD
OM 1.78.1: BD(?), WEB
OAR: BD, WEB, DVD, VHS
Terminator 2: Judgment Day - OAR 2.40:1

FS: DVD (Russian), VHS(?), LD (both cuts)
OM: none known
OAR: BD, WEB, DVD, VHS
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines - OAR 2.40:1

FS: DVD
OM: HDTV
OAR: BD, DVD
Terminator Salvation - OAR 2.40:1

FS: DVD
OM: WEB, HDTV
OAR: BD, DVD
Terminator Genisys - OAR 2.40:1

FS: none known
OM: HDTV (Cinemax, don't know if it's cropped, though!)
OAR: BD, DVD
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#38
2018-01-28, 12:55 PM
Jurassic Park saga
Jurassic Park - OAR 1.85:1

FS: DVD, film scan
OM: HDTV
OAR: BD, HDTV, DVD
The Lost World: Jurassic Park - OAR 1.85:1

FS: DVD
OM: HDTV
OAR: BD, HDTV, DVD
Jurassic Park III - OAR 1.85:1

FS: DVD
OM: HDTV
OAR: BD, HDTV, DVD
Jurassic World - OAR 2:00:1

FS: DVD
OM: HDTV
OAR: BD, HDTV, DVD
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#39
2018-01-28, 12:57 PM
Back to the Future saga
Back to the Future - OAR 1.85:1

FS: DVD
OM: HDTV
OAR: BD, HDTV, DVD
Back to the Future II - OAR 1.85:1

FS: DVD
OM: HDTV
OAR: BD, HDTV, DVD
Back to the Future III - OAR 1.85:1

FS: DVD
OM: HDTV
OAR: BD, HDTV, DVD
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#40
2018-01-28, 01:03 PM
The Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit saga

The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - OAR 2.40:1

FS: DVD
OM: HDTV, WEB(?)
OAR: BD, DVD
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - OAR 2.40:1

FS: DVD
OM: HDTV, WEB(?)
OAR: BD, DVD
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - OAR 2.40:1

FS: DVD
OM: HDTV, WEB(?)
OAR: BD, DVD

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - OAR 2.40:1

FS: DTV(?)
OM: HDTV, WEB(?)
OAR: BD, DVD
The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug - OAR 2.40:1

FS: DTV(?)
OM: HDTV, WEB(?)
OAR: BD, DVD

The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies - OAR 2.40:1

FS: DTV(?)
OM: HDTV, WEB(?)
OAR: BD, DVD
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