UHD BD to BD?

[MrBrown]

@MrBrown: thanks for the index!

Now, if you can put the list in alphabetical order, start a new thread (like "UHD BD to BD examples") and maintain it updated... it will be great!

I started it in chronological order... I was happy after I was completed, that I just hit the "post reply" button... But it is a start to work with.

I also thought of alphabetical.

EDIT (okay, at least I can start sorting by Movie...):

Batman Begins:
Batman Begins (by Beber - MadVR vs. RipBot264 vs. new BluRay)
Batman Begins (by Beber, tinkering with contrast settings on RipBot264)
Batman Begins (by Beber iTunes vs. more contrast)
Batman Begins (again by Beber - iTunes vs. RipBot264 vs. new BD)

Blade Runner:
Blade Runner and The Dark Knight (by PDB) (same Post, so same Link)
Blade Runner (by Beber - MadVR vs. RipBot264 vs. RipBot264 with tuning)
Blade Runner (by Beber - MadVR vs. different RipBot264 tuning)

Big Lebowski, The:
Big Lebowski, The (by Beber - tuned)
Big Lebowski, The (again by Beber - tuned)

Dark Knight, The:
The Dark Knight (by CSchmidlapp)
The Dark Knight (by Beber - comparing MadVR vs. RipBot264)
The Dark Knight (new attempt by Beber - MadVR vs. RipBot264 vs. RipBot264 with tuning)
The Dark Knight setting discussions here and here.
The Dark Knight (by CSchmidlapp)
The Dark Knight (by Beber - iTunes vs RipBot264) continues here and different setting here.


Dark Knight Rises, The:
The Dark Knight Rises (by Beber - iTunes vs. RipBot264)

Die Hard:
Die Hard (by Beber - comparing MadVR vs. RipBot264 vs. Netflix remaster)
Die Hard (again by Beber - Netflix vs. RipBot264 2different tunings)

Few Good Men, A:
Few Good Men, A (by Beber - tuned)
Few Good Men, A (again by Beber - BD vs. RipBot264 tuned)

Gladiator:
Gladiator (by Beber - MadVR vs. Ripbot264)
Gladiator (vectorscope check by Chewtobacca)
Gladiator (by Beber - BD vs. RipBot264 tuned)

Grease:
Grease (by X5gb)

Groundhog Day:
Groundhog Day (by Beber - BD vs. jap mastered in 4K BD vs. MadVR vs. RipBot264)

Harry Potter #1:
Harry Potter #1 (by Beber - BD vs. RipBot264 default settings)

Harry Potter #2:
Harry Potter #2 (by Beber - BD vs. RipBot264 default settings)


Hunt for the Red October, The:
The Hunt for the Red October (by Beber - BD vs. RipBot264 default settings)
The Hunt for the Red October (revisited by Beber - RipBot264 tuned)


Matrix, The:
The Matrix (by Beber - comparing MadVR vs. RipBot264 vs. Remastered BluRay)
The Matrix (by Beber - remastered BD vs. RipBot264 default setting)


Men in Black II:
Men in Black II (by Beber - hue tests on RipBot264 vs. MadVR)
Men in Black II (different RipBot264 setting)


Mission Impossible:
Mission Impossible (by Beber - BD vs. RipBot264)
Mission Impossible (again by Beber - 1st attempt vs. 2nd attempt)

Mission Impossible II:
Mission Impossible II (by Beber - BD vs. RipBot264)
Mission Impossible II (by Beber - BD vs. French BRoadcast vs. RipBot264)

Mission Impossible III:
Mission Impossible III (by Beber - BD vs. RipBot264)

Mummy, The:
Mummy, The (by X5gb - RipBot264 tuned with Bebers Gladiator Settings)
Mummy, The (by Beber - tuned)
Mummy, The (again X5gb - tuned)
Mummy, The (Beber vs. X5gb same conversion settings. follow up conversation hints that the shots of the final rip are done with different video encoders...)
Mummy, The (again X5gb - same Rip encode, different Player encoder...)

Patriot Games:
Patriot Games (by Beber - BD vs. RipBot264 tuned like Red October vs. RipBot tuned)
Patriot Games (again by Beber - tuned)

Predator:
Predator (by Beber - BD2008 vs. BD2010 vs. RipBot264)
Predator (by X5gb - very slow 2 pass grain high quality conversion)
Predator (by Beber - syncronization information for the LD Track)
Predator (again by Beber)

Predator 2:
Predator 2 (by Beber - BD vs. RipBot264 default settings)

Starship Troopers:
Starship Troopers (by Beber - comparing MadVR vs. RipBot264)
Starship Troopers (new attempt by Beber)

Terminator 2:
Terminator 2 (by Beber - BD207 vs. RipBot264 tuned)

X-Men:
X-Men (by Beber)

X-Men 2:
X-Men 2 (by Beber - BD vs. Netflix vs. Ripbot264 tuned)

[X5gb]

On MI i actually used a Cont of 0.85 (not 0.8, if I said that, I'm sorry) and Sat 0.9 and leaving the brightness at default. I got that contrast setting from the German forum but on there they had the Sat at 0.95 which I felt seemed to colourful in a couple of the scenes including restaurant and interrogation so took your original advice of 0.9. It's not perfect due to the crazy nature of the color timing (scene specific color timing would need to be performed in Premiere or Resolve and by a competent colourist which I am certainly not), but is what I settled on and the majority of retail blurays using 4k remasters are on the dark side so am fine with it. Your setting of Cont 1.1 I find personally on the bright side , similar to vivid setting on a tv and having Sat at 1.2 on my Cont setting would make the majority of scenes look even more colourful (although on your Cont setting they appear ok from the screenshots). Everyone has there preference so if your happy with them settings stick with them, it's nice to hear your opinion.

There are times where I don't agree with the Cont setting's on the German forum as well including Patriot Games where they settled on 0.8 which I found much to dark and settled on 0.98 (as they did on CAPD Cont 0.98 and Sat 1.00) and a Sat of 1.05.

I would be happy to hear your settings on the first two Mummy movies if you get around to them as I can't seem to settle on any.

Not sure if you've seen it but there is another software called HDR Tools which supposedly also uses the HDR parameters to convert to SDR along with alot more individual colour tweaks and other complicated settings which at the moment is a little over my head.

MI I settled on Cont 0.8 and Sat 0.9.

I decided to test my theory of applying the same tweakings within the same studio releases. So I gave another shot at Paramount Mission: Impossible with the settings I came up with for Paramount Red October. And here's what I obtain:

1st attempt with RipBot (-5, 0.9, -1, 0.9) / new attempt (0, 1.1, 0, 1.2)



To my eyes, the more constrasty look is a lot better and more vibrant, even if it blows out some highlights. X5gb, you were satisfied with a contrast set at 0.8? I already felt at 0.9 that it looks like there's some sort of a hazy veil all over the picture. What to you think of this more contrasty look?

It's still completely off colorwise regarding the matching of a 35mm print and it still looks very ugly inside the CIA corridors and inside the high security vault, though. I can't see how to fix that by myself. I still contend that this new remaster would look a lot better and faithfull to the film look with the Blu-ray colors applied onto it.

[Beber]

X5gb, if that other toy you're talking about is over your head, then I'm pretty sure it'll be over mine as well.

Your setting of Cont 1.1 I find personally on the bright side , similar to vivid setting on a tv and having Sat at 1.2 on my Cont setting would make the majority of scenes look even more colourful (although on your Cont setting they appear ok from the screenshots).

Actually, for Mission: Impossible, it's the other way around: my contrast is 1.2 and my sat is 1.1. Just like on Paramount Red October. The increase in contrast makes the increase in saturation to not look too much, it seems.



I made a test on the first 15 minutes of X-Men using your Predator settings as it is a Fox release, still to check my theory of applying the same settings within releases from the same studio:

(video,hue=0,sat=1.05,bright=0,cont=0.9)










That looks pretty good, right?

For your Mummy movies, being Universal, I'd try my Gladiator settings maybe. Or I'd try to match the E.T. UHD to its Blu-ray counterpart and then apply the same settings to the Mummy.

[X5gb]

Yea, X-Men looking pretty good. Re: your MI settings, so you increased the Cont to 1.2, too bright for my tastes but as said if your happy, that's all that matters.

Thanks for the advice about your Gladiator settings been used for the Mummy movies, I'll try them and see but think I already tried Cont 0.9 and it looked to little too dark but with your other tweaks may change my opinion. Someone also did Gladiator Extended over on the German forum using Hue 0 Sat 1.15 Bright 0 and Cont 0.95. I'll try both and see.

[Chewtobacca]

Someone also did Gladiator Extended over on the German forum using Hue 0 Sat 1.15 Bright 0 and Cont 0.95. I'll try both and see.

When it come to saturation, Gladiator is pushing the limits (and sometimes even shooting past them) of what's safe even with the default settings.  I'd be wary of bumping saturation up to the 1.15; that's a significant increase for something that's already pretty saturated.

[X5gb]

Someone also did Gladiator Extended over on the German forum using Hue 0 Sat 1.15 Bright 0 and Cont 0.95. I'll try both and see.

When it come to saturation, Gladiator is pushing the limits (and sometimes even shooting past them) of what's safe even with the default settings.  I'd be wary of bumping saturation up to the 1.15; that's a significant increase for something that's already pretty saturated.

The screenshots posted looked ok but I'm sure you are right and I think for the Mummy movies which is what I want to use the settings on, it will be way to much saturation as well but more interested in seeing how the Cont of 0.95 will look with them.

[Beber]

Here's where I'm at right now after 4 variations of tests on the first 10 minutes of Patriot Games :

Blu-ray / UHD Ripbot conversion (hue=0,sat=1.1,bright=0,cont=1.2) same as Red October / (hue=0,sat=1.25,bright=0,cont=1.07)

















I think I'll go with that last tweaking (hue=0,sat=1.25,bright=0,cont=1.07): it keeps white enough names on the opening credits and keeps most of the pattern on the lampshade, plus the saturation makes it less bland. Maybe I'll revisit Red October with these tweakings.

[X5gb]

Looking good, as said I decided on Cont 0.98 and Sat 1.05 as my sweet spot. Prefer the darker look more associated with 4k masters. The German forum decided on Cont 0.80 which I found way to dark (the ending scenes bordered on black crush) where as at default Cont 1.0 just a tad to bright so settled on 0.98. As far as Sat, I think the movie has always been quite bland (similar to the majority of CAPD) although at default just a little to much so went with 1.05. I'll have a go with your settings just to see how it looks at my end when I get around to it in case I like it.

[Beber]

Contrast at 0.98 wouldn't do it for me, as I'm already borderline not having white names on the opening credits. Regarding saturation, it's because I went further in contrast that I had to compensate colorwise, 'cause if not, it looks too dull.
I don't have Clear and Present Danger yet, so I'll look into it sometime in the future. My next tests will be on A Few Good Men, X-Men 2, The Lost World and The Big Lebowski.

[X5gb]

Here is a few screen screenshots using preview script from The Mummy using your Gladiator settings (hue=2,sat=1.05,bright=0,cont=0.9)