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[Help] The Thing (1982) -> Best Mix?
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#61
2021-09-17, 03:10 PM
(2021-09-17, 03:00 PM)Turisu Wrote:
(2021-09-17, 01:03 AM)PDB Wrote: Yep since it has the better sync as you indicated.

Not for the UHD. For the UHD Shout! has the correct sync.

I don't think we are talking frame sync but lip sync.
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2021-09-17, 04:45 PM
I only compared frames to get the initial offset then I actually muxed the audio from all 3 BDs with the UHD video and watched several scenes. The Shout! tracks were in sync throughout (with a +1001ms offset). The others lost sync after the test scene. 300ms is very noticeable.
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2021-09-17, 06:25 PM
(2021-09-17, 04:45 PM)Turisu Wrote: I only compared frames to get the initial offset then I actually muxed the audio from all 3 BDs with the UHD video and watched several scenes. The Shout! tracks were in sync throughout (with a +1001ms offset). The others lost sync after the test scene. 300ms is very noticeable.

I've been trying to use the Turbine 4.1 track with a 1001ms delay on an UHD remux and the sync is off towards the end of the film even though it is fine at the start. Are you saying that if I use the Shout 4.1 instead it should line up without any issues?
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2021-09-17, 06:54 PM
(2021-09-17, 04:45 PM)Turisu Wrote: I only compared frames to get the initial offset then I actually muxed the audio from all 3 BDs with the UHD video and watched several scenes. The Shout! tracks were in sync throughout (with a +1001ms offset). The others lost sync after the test scene. 300ms is very noticeable.

Sadly there is still one frame difference (41ms) after the test scene - surely better than 300ms, still noticeable though!
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2021-09-17, 07:49 PM
Thanks for checking that. Is that plus 1 frame or minus 1 frame? If we adjust the initial offset by 21ms then it should produce an acceptable sync throughout the movie.
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2021-09-17, 08:26 PM
(2021-09-17, 07:49 PM)Turisu Wrote: Thanks for checking that. Is that plus 1 frame or minus 1 frame? If we adjust the initial offset by 21ms then it should produce an acceptable sync throughout the movie.

IMO I'd rather just see the whole track re-encoded and synced than have it be partially out of sync the whole movie.
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#67
2021-09-17, 08:31 PM
In my Turbine BD tracks sync I added:
- 48048 samples / 1001ms (24 frames) at the start
- 16016 samples / ~334ms (8 frames) after the blood test scene (copied samples 249551072-249567088 and pasted them at 249567088) 

I encoded the 4.1 and 5.1 tracks back to DTS-HD MA, 2.0 as FLAC (available via PM).
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2021-09-17, 08:38 PM
(2021-09-17, 08:26 PM)stwd4nder2 Wrote: IMO I'd rather just see the whole track re-encoded and synced than have it be partially out of sync the whole movie.

Second that.

Who's up for the task?
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2021-09-17, 09:08 PM
Unless they used the Turbine track as a basis or Universal fixed the same issues that they did then the UHD track will still have the issues all other tracks have always had. Are you sure they fixed them Turisu? Anyway the 7.1 on the UHD I wasn’t a particular fan of myself and other reviews tend to back that up.
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2021-09-17, 09:23 PM
(2021-09-17, 08:31 PM)Scavenger Wrote: In my Turbine BD tracks sync I added:
- 48048 samples / 1001ms (24 frames) at the start
- 16016 samples / ~334ms (8 frames) after the blood test scene (copied samples 249551072-249567088 and pasted them at 249567088) 

I encoded the 4.1 and 5.1 tracks back to DTS-HD MA, 2.0 as FLAC (available via PM).
That's awesome Smile . Thanks for doing that.
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