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You all know so much more than me about The Abyss and True Lies but two nube questions:
(1) Is The Abyss the same updated master as the WEB-DL (or more compressed HDTV) that have been floating around? And I wonder if there will be less grain in the BD.
(2) Is True Lies the new Disney + master? Also wonder if that'll have more or less DNR on BD.
Still, great to see these movies finally get some appreciation commercially. Hope it won't be too much of a catastrophe.
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1. Seems so as the trailer’s framing and color matches the older Web-DL. The only major difference is the trailer lack grain that the Web has. But seems after what Zoidberg said the DCP is fine.
2. Not sure about TL but since that new Web-DL showed up a few months ago, it’s likely the same. There was a few different Webs of the new master that slightly varying in grain so there is still hope that the UHD is ok
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Woo! Thanks for the good news @ PDB !
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Listening back to JC's comments at Beyond Fest, he says of The Abyss he didn't want to just release the old HD master, so I've a feeling he's gone back to the 4K scan that was made and spruced it up a little. But time will tell
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I think they only scanned The Abyss once in 4K, back in 2014 or whereabouts, and this is the master scan we're getting.
All they have done is just re-doing the color corrections in Resolve. This master has shown on Netflix and other services in several countries in recent years.
I'm more concerned about framing problems, has both these films are Super 35. It's probably going to be a festival of misframed shots. Cameron may validate final masters, but I doubt after all these years, and after doing all the Avatar films which are a huge undertaking, he remembers how the framing was originaly, what shots he adjusted for cinema on those olds films.
Also, as T2 as shown, the people in charge of the project doesn't reference older masters for the framing.
They just leave the common top extraction, which sometimes isn't even the same on the UHD and the Blu-ray.
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(2023-11-18, 11:51 AM)Stamper Wrote: I think they only scanned The Abyss once in 4K, back in 2014 or whereabouts, and this is the master scan we're getting.
All they have done is just re-doing the color corrections in Resolve. This master has shown on Netflix and other services in several countries in recent years.
I'm more concerned about framing problems, has both these films are Super 35. It's probably going to be a festival of misframed shots. Cameron may validate final masters, but I doubt after all these years, and after doing all the Avatar films which are a huge undertaking, he remembers how the framing was originaly, what shots he adjusted for cinema on those olds films.
Also, as T2 as shown, the people in charge of the project doesn't reference older masters for the framing.
They just leave the common top extraction, which sometimes isn't even the same on the UHD and the Blu-ray.
Would the Cameron approved masters be open matte, with a secondary mastering process involving cropping and resizing ect?
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I think they just show him the final versions (though with T2 they may have shown him 3D clips and he probably validated the 3D over all the film, but this was Chinese money, so in this case, he probably was more involved).
I do think there was a problem with T2 in 3D, in that he may have validated a 1.78:1 version, or 1.85:1, then changed his mind.
So they had to redo the framing on every master, hence why the 4K, 2K, and 3D have variations of framing.
I don't get why T2 is not 1.85:1 in 3D, when every 3D movie Cameron releases is in full screen on home video.
Then you have this weird thing, where Avatar is 1.77:1 on home-video, even the new remaster, while Avatar 2 is 1.85:1.
This makes no sense. Why not have all the series at 1.85:1 on video?
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JC does these things to annoy you Stamper. And only you
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(2023-11-18, 04:01 PM)zoidberg Wrote: JC does these things to annoy you Stamper. And only you
Hahahahahahaha
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LOL, I'm betting he does! Cheeky basterd!
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