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[proposal] 007 Purist Redux
#11
Do you know whether anyone capped any of those UK HDTV broadcasts?
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#12
No clue... I've been on the search since I first discovered it wasn't coming to BD and have been unable to find anything.
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#13
Nice info guys.

After going through it, Goldeneye is a big mess. All the four PB entries could do with scans IMHO, but most of all GE. Every copy is tweaked and has it's own issues. To be honest I think I actually prefer the THX LD most of all on my CRT!
Damn Fool Idealistic Crusader
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#14
Just got YOLT HDTV, that weird, the colors are correct, unlike the Blu-ray!

Is there anyway to color match the Blu-ray files to that HDTV file?

WE NEED the SKYFALL hdtv broadcast to preserve the IMAX version which was 1.89:1 so those should actually have more picture than IMAX
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#15
You could use DrDre's color-correction-tool to color match the BD to the HDTV.

I have been trying to find that Skyfall HDTV broadcast in any quality at all and have not been able to yet. Perhaps it doesn't exist and would actually need to be captured the next time it airs in the UK.
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#16
In regards to YOLT... I don't know how it compares to the HDTV, but I do know that kk650 did a regraded version of this film some time ago.
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#17
Yes I have that one. It's great Smile
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#18
Time to bump this thread!

Captainsolo is the Bond expert here, and I'm pretty sure that, during these past months, he had discovered something new; hope he will chime in to report his findings.

Now, my little contribution to the thread: as I'm not a Bond expert, those abbreviations bugs me a lot, so I decided to list all the 007 movies here (even the non-canon ones) with abbreviations, too (including THE, don't know if I did it right...)

Alphabetical order:
Code:
Casino Royale [CR] (2006) - Daniel Craig
Casino Royale (1967) - David Niven
Diamonds are Forever [DAF] (1971) - Sean Connery
Die another day [DAD] (2002) - Pierce Brosnan
Dr. No [DN] (1962) - Sean Connery
For your eyes only [FYEO] (1981) - Roger Moore
From Russia with Love [FRWL] (1963) - Sean Connery
GoldenEye (1995) - Pierce Brosnan
Goldfinger (1964) - Sean Connery
License to kill [LTK] (1989) - Timothy Dalton
Live and Let Die [LALD] (1973) - Roger Moore
Living daylights, The [TLD] (1987) - Timothy Dalton
Man with the Golden Gun, The [TMWTGG] (1974) - Roger Moore
Moonraker (1979) - Roger Moore
Never say never again [NSNA] (1983) - Sean Connery
Octopussy (1983) - Roger Moore
On Her Majesty's Secret Service [OHMSS] (1969) - George Lazenby
Quantum of solace [QOF] (2008) - Daniel Craig
Skyfall (2012) - Daniel Craig
Spectre (2015) - Daniel Craig
Spy Who Loved Me, The [TSWLM] (1977) - Roger Moore
Thunderball (1965) - Sean Connery
Tomorrow never dies [TND] (1997) - Pierce Brosnan
View to a kill, A [AVTAK] (1985) - Roger Moore
World is not enough, The [TWINE] (1999) - Pierce Brosnan
You Only Live Twice [YOLT] (1967) - Sean Connery

Chronological order:
Code:
Dr. No [DN] (1962) - Sean Connery
From Russia with Love [FRWL] (1963) - Sean Connery
Goldfinger (1964) - Sean Connery
Thunderball (1965) - Sean Connery
Casino Royale (1967) - David Niven
You Only Live Twice [YOLT] (1967) - Sean Connery
On Her Majesty's Secret Service [OHMSS] (1969) - George Lazenby
Diamonds are Forever [DAF] (1971) - Sean Connery
Live and Let Die [LALD] (1973) - Roger Moore
Man with the Golden Gun, The [TMWTGG] (1974) - Roger Moore
Spy Who Loved Me, The [TSWLM] (1977) - Roger Moore
Moonraker (1979) - Roger Moore
For your eyes only [FYEO] (1981) - Roger Moore
Never say never again [NSNA] (1983) - Sean Connery
Octopussy (1983) - Roger Moore
View to a kill, A [AVTAK] (1985) - Roger Moore
Living daylights, The [TLD] (1987) - Timothy Dalton
License to kill [LTK] (1989) - Timothy Dalton
GoldenEye (1995) - Pierce Brosnan
Tomorrow never dies [TND] (1997) - Pierce Brosnan
World is not enough, The [TWINE] (1999) - Pierce Brosnan
Die another day [DAD] (2002) - Pierce Brosnan
Casino Royale [CR] (2006) - Daniel Craig
Quantum of solace [QOF] (2008) - Daniel Craig
Skyfall (2012) - Daniel Craig
Spectre (2015) - Daniel Craig

Hope I did my homeworks well!

It will be great to have, near each title, the best versions up to date, regarding overall quality, video - resolution, color grading, grain - and audio - original mix.

I have the following 007 laserdiscs (some boxsets, two or three both DTS and AC3, all letterbox IIRC) that I would capture IF a proper project will ever see the... daylight! Big Grin

Diamonds are Forever
Dr. No
For your eyes only
GoldenEye
Goldfinger
License to kill
Live and Let Die
Living daylights, The
Man with the Golden Gun, The
Moonraker
Never say never again
Spy Who Loved Me, The
Thunderball
Tomorrow never dies
You Only Live Twice
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#19
Well, I'll give my thoughts, as a staunch 007 fan:

As far as video is concerned, the BD's look the best (So far) with some exceptions. I will use the full name for Andrea's sake Smile :

"You Only Live Twice" and "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" suffer from contrast boosting, but otherwise display a fine picture with grain and detail.
There are HDTV rips of the pre-boosted master which don't look that dashing, so maybe a new cap is in order when the films are on TV in the future.

Other than that, the Connery Blurays look fine, especially the first 3, which are clearly a new 4K scan.

With the Roger Moore films, "The Spy Who Loved Me" has, IMO, the best transfer, which is also clearly from a new 4K scan.
The rest aren't bad, to my eye, not much scrubbing in evidence, but it's clear that not all received a new scan, and were made using the older masters, and since films like "For Your Eyes Only" and "Octopussy" in particular weren't exactly the best looking films in the first place, due to the stock material, this doesn't bother me much. They look like a film from that era would look in HD. Not bad, but not spectacular either.

I'm not sure if the two Dalton films were made with new scans. I'm pretty sure "License to Kill" wasn't, but that was late 80's schlock with the bad acting that goes with it, and the photography, again, is lackluster in the first place. "The Living Daylights", in comparison, looks much better, and the Bluray does shine, with excellent color and detail, so I think it might be a new scan.

Goldeneye had two masters for the SE and UE DVD's, and the UE's transfer, while being a newer scan with better detail, was slightly zoomed in. After the fans complained, MGM used the SE master, which wasn't zoomed in, but was from 2003, and full of artifacts, which were then smeared with heavy DNR for the BD, making it very painful to watch. However, there is a fairly high quality HDTV rip in 1080p, which uses the UE master, and it can be used if no recent cap can be made available.

The rest of the Brosnan films seem like the same scans, only in HD resolution. Those are newer films, barely 20 years old, so it's understandable.

The Daniel Craig films obviously look the best on Bluray, with "Casino Royale" Looking especially beautiful, with great colors and detail which look very similar to what I experienced in theatre in 2006. This is also one of the first BD's, also being released in 2006 by Sony, and since the Bluray format is featured in the actual film, it makes sense for them to give it a proper transfer, and it certainly stands out among 2006 releases, being properly encoded in AVC with a healthy bitrate in the high 20s.
The rest look fine, and only "Spectre"'s Bluray needs dialing down on the Yellow, which wasn't so strong in cinemas, and when you notice it, it's very distracting.

Sound wise, all US BD's of the pre-Brosnan films contain the original mix in lossy AC3. The 5.1 mix for the Mono films (Pre "The Spy Who Loved me") range from not much different than mono to atrocious meddling (Especially with "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", which has a terrible 5.1 mix).
The best solution for those are obviously LD's, for now.

Films recorded in Dolby Stereo fair better in 5.1, but the original mixes still sound more natural, and there already are LD soundtracks for "Moonraker" and "The Living Daylights" available here.

With Goldeneye and later films, that were natively mixed in 5.1, DTS CD's/LD soundtracks?
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#20
Thanks for the extensive answer, Nir!

What about color grading for the blu-ray and HDTV in general?
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