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| STANLEY KUBRICK German Preservation Project - Overview Thread |
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Posted by: TheHutt - 2021-08-05, 10:56 AM - Forum: Released
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This topic is a collection for my restorations of the German versions of Stanley Kubrick movies.
Stanley Kubrick was very adamant to the effort of having his movies localized for the countries they were released in. He took the effort of personally selecting voice actors, localizing entire credits sequences as well as actually reshooting footage in other languages.
The focus of the project are Kubrick's auteur movies after "Spartacus". I also decided to take "Dr. Strangelove" off the top priority, as I have no thinkable source of its German localization.
List:
I am not saying that I will be able to tackle all of these, and/or in which order this will happen. After all, it's a question of availability of material.
I am always looking to obtain:- English mono audio tracks
- German mono audio tracks
- German recordings (VHS, TV)
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| The Shining - German Version Preservation |
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Posted by: TheHutt - 2021-08-05, 09:07 AM - Forum: Released
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After completing the German Version Preservation of Kubrick’s “Barry Lyndon”, I decided that this might be a long-term project, to preserve German versions of Stanley Kubrick’s films. And the next in row was the most complex of them, namely “The Shining”.
Now the project is released.
(Link to WIP thread)
Screenshots
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More Screenshots
Scope of the project
Here are the things I aimed to achieve.
- International version
- 4:3 Fullscreen version and 16:9 version in HD
- 70s WB logo
- German intro credits
- German intertitles
- German typewriter footage
- German photo of Jack at the end
- German End Credits
- German and English mono audio
- German and English subtitles
- Other little things
International version
The German version was the 120-min International version of the movie. The new 4K restoration is, however, the US version (with additional footage dubbed recently and rather badly - sadly, Kubrick was not around anymore to prevent such an outrage). This was the version I was conforming to.
4:3 Fullscreen version and 16:9 version in HD
I have been able to obtain a WEB-DL of The Shining in 1080p and 4:3. Although the quality was suboptimal (many compression artefacts) I decided to use it as the main version for the restoration.
Due to those artifacts, I decided to also make a branch of the project, a 16:9 version (with the first BluRay as a source). Therefore, all the needed footage was created in 4K resolution to be scaled down accordingly for each of the versions.
70s WB logo
As “Shining”, when originally released, made use of the 1970s WB logo, I cut it in instead of the 80s one. (The source being the HD version of “The Bugs Bunny Roadrunner Movie”).
German intro credits
I attempted various ways of upscaling existing intro credits. From the digitally re-created interlaced German TV ones to an upscale and regrade of the original VHS footage. None of them brought any decent results.
So it was decided to do it frame by frame, removing the German parts in the intro credits (“Produced and Directed by” - “Produktion und Regie”) and cleaning it up. That was possible by programming some clever Photoshop actions and scripts, though led initially to some weird artifacts.
However, it was quite helpful that the digital TV version had a custom-made intro, having different timings and placement of the scrolling text. Therefore, it was in parts possible to “patch” over the credits with blank footage. After that, some very complex retouching and color/levels adjustments were necessary. However, I am quite pleased with the results, and there are only a few artifacts left.
German intertitles
The original intertitles were replaced by German ones, according to the original translations from the VHS. The letter look and spacing were approximated to that of the original German texts.
German typewriter footage
Now that was probably the 2nd main reason for doing this at all. Originally, Kubrick shot different international versions of the typewriter footage, replacing the words “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy” with various proverbs in other languages, which would be more or less fitting. The German saying used was “Was du heute kannst besorgen, das verschiebe nicht auf morgen” (Do not hold off for tomorrow what you can get done today).
The footage was in a decent quality from the German digital TV recording, and was already upscaled and cleaned up by Taddäus Tentakel. My job was just to upscale it some more with some of my AVS scripts.
Also an interesting point: the German typewriter footage actually doesn’t sync up to the English (or German 5.1) audio, only to the original German mono.
German photo of Jack at the end
The last shot of the movie was replaced by a German-localized version, having a German inscription on the photograph. This was the last thing I did, as I originally planned to used scaled-up VHS footage. However, after having put so much effort into the intro credits, it would just not do the product justice quality-wise. Therefore, the German text was recreated and the pan down re-done. Also, that German insert did not have the dissolve effect the original version had. The missing of the dissolve was also recreated.
German End Credits
The end credits were done using the German VHS footage and the high-res of 4K UHD which was then scaled down for both the 4:3 and 16:9 version. The German credits had some small differences, adding or moving some names from one title to another. Also they had two cards added, crediting the creator of the German versions and the German dubbing speakers.
Also, the original spelling errors were re-created.
German and English mono audio
The German mono audio was taken from the digital TV version. It had quite a decent quality, too, except in the end credits. This part was replaced by the English mono.
The English mono was taken from the 1st edition of the US version of the 4:3 DVD (it was later replaced by a version without a mono track. Clearly, Leon Vitali seems not to like mono). The audio needed to be conformed to the European version.
Also, the English and German 5.1 Dolby Digital versions are conteined as a bonus.
As stated before, the German mono version actually used different production sound (or foley design) at the typewriter footage, which is conformed to the German version. The German 5.1 and the English track are out of sync in this shots.
German and English subtitles
There are following subtitles available:
- German
- German for the Hard of Hearing
- English Inserts
- English
- English for the Hard of Hearing
The subtitles were adapted to the fact that the intertitles and typewriter footage are in German, so they are translated into English via the subtitles (and are removed from the German subtitles, accordingly).
Other little things
Chapters were created for the video using the International BluRay chapters. The names of the chapters are taken from the 2001 4:3 DVD (English and German versions).
Thanks to
pinheadraiser
Taddäus Tentakel
SpaceBlackKnight
pipefan413
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| French Man |
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Posted by: miike - 2021-08-04, 07:22 PM - Forum: Presentation
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Hello everybody,
I registered on the forum because I'm looking for the best quality audio tracks like Laserdiscs PCM.
hope to find my hapipiness here.
Best Regards.
Miike
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| Hello! |
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Posted by: WDW203 - 2021-08-02, 10:23 PM - Forum: Presentation
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Hi!
I first became interested in fan restoration projects after discovering Harmy's Despecialized Editions a few years ago. I am a member of some Star Wars forums, but my recent interest in open matte/Imax preservations has led me here. Looking forward to checking things out!
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| The Crow'93 |
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Posted by: eledoremassis02 - 2021-08-02, 05:47 PM - Forum: In progress
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I have been collecting a variety of materials and plan on creating a working print of sorts to nail the original tone of the film pre-accident (including the logo).
All re-shot *or one that I am 100% sure are reshot* will be removed and replaced with storyboards and text dialogue with music similar to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c59-yGcu_9M&t=1s
I have most of the storyboards of unfished scenes (will be coloring them) and 3 different workprints and behind the scenes videos that I plan to use in this edit as well as a script latest revision was 1/30/93)
I am just debating if I should use the DVD as a base (need to buy if the case though I have the UK dvd) or use the bluray. The file will be SD since some of the workprints are rough.
The only post-accident assets I plan to keep will be the film being in memory of Brandon and the score (which appears to be mostly completed after the film was picked up by Miramax
UPDATES
#1: Eric's resurrection preview - https://streamable.com/v9lx7e
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| Fortress 1992 Spanish Blu Ray? |
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Posted by: MeanjohnRambo - 2021-08-02, 06:48 AM - Forum: Movies, TV shows and other
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So I was looking for Fortress with Christopher Lambert on Blu Ray and saw that the US and German blu rays are out of print and outrageously priced everywhere I look. There is a Spanish blu ray but I'm not sure about the quality. It's really the only decently priced option I have. I'm pretty sure it's a bootleg though. Should I take a chance on it or get the dvd instead?
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| Blade Runner - assorted outtakes |
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Posted by: Lio - 2021-08-02, 01:16 AM - Forum: Released
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A thousand boxes full of "Blade Runner" negatives were taking up space in a Burbank warehouse and were ordered for destruction in 1988, but someone forgot to sign the final paperwork. So the crates languished in limbo, untouched and forgotten, until a team of DVD producers opened them in 2001. They were looking for footage to include on a special edition DVD of "Blade Runner", which was slated for release on the film's twentieth anniversary.
That DVD set was cancelled after legal dilemmas, but by 2006 the red tape had been severed and DVD producer Charles de Lauzirika began cataloguing every take in preparation for the "Final Cut" Blu-ray. Hours of dailies were scanned for bonus features on the set, including a 40-minute "Deleted Scenes" compilation. Other features about the creation and design of the film were suffused with outtakes and effects shots. I've combined all those shots into an 80 minute video with footage you probably haven't seen before, and most of which was not spliced into the Deleted Scenes feature.
The original source was SD and interlaced; I kept it that way. Most of the footage is unused takes of shots which made the cut, but there are several surprises -- even for those who thought they knew everything there was to know about the movie. Anyone interested can post in the thread or PM me.
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Posted by: allldu - 2021-07-29, 08:14 PM - Forum: Audio and video editing
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Hi guys, so I had this idea, just wanted to have more experienced opinions. So if a movie had a 4.1 theatrical mix with mono surrounds, but they were split and stereo-ized for the home video release to make it an upmixed 5.1 layout, if I combine the surrounds back into mono, will I restore the original 4.1 mix? Logically it should be doable, but technically? Case in point - Close Encounters Of The Third Kind (4.1 mix has been enhanced to 5.1).
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