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  Demonstrating why "restored" mono sounds awful, feat. THE SWORD IN THE STONE (1963)
Posted by: pipefan413 - 2020-12-17, 01:21 AM - Forum: In progress - Replies (20)

I just captured my (hitherto sealed and pristine) copy of THE SWORD IN THE STONE to check the audio out. And I'm sort of equally horrified and thrilled that it's an excellent demonstration of how distributors make a complete mess of "restoring" mono soundtracks on home video presentations because they presumably think people are all stupid and will complain about tape hiss if they don't remove it, even though removing it completely destroys the sound overall. Consider this my incredibly simplistic attempt at @Moshrom's schtick.

Firstly, the packaging is wrong. This is the second time today I've had a LaserDisc sleeve lie to me. Earlier on I captured my letterboxed widescreen edition of LES MISÉRABLES: THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY CONCERT, only to find that despite the sleeve proudly proclaiming that it contains the "original 16:9 high definition aspect ratio", it's actually heavily cropped 4:3 which means it's identical to the 4:3 copy I already captured. Now, I see this sticker on THE SWORD IN THE STONE...

Quote:Available for the first time on home video: Walt Disney's original mono soundtrack mix on the analog channels.

Enhanced stereo soundtrack mix located on the digital tracks.

... but when I capture it, this is immediately proven false. What it actually contains is two different versions of the mono soundtrack, one on analogue and digital left,  and one on analogue and digital right.  And holy crap, what a difference there is between them.

The left channel sounds pretty fantastic, plenty of magnetic tape his left in and the frequency response is fairly balanced. The right channel on the other hand has clearly had a very ham-fisted "restoration" job to remove all the tape hiss and general analogue noise, which makes it sound absolutely atrocious. Y'know, the old clock radio syndrome: somehow managing to sound muffled and too thin/brittle at the same time. So remarkably obvious is this difference in quality that somebody's commented on the LDDB page that the *right* channel is the original mono, presumably assuming that it must be the older/unrestored version because it sounds absolutely awful next to the much better left channel, thus the better sounding one *has* to be the "restored" version. But no, this is just what happens with mono soundtracks that have audible tape hiss.

Check this s**t out:

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To demonstrate what I mean about how bad this sounds, here's a quick back-and-forth sample of the start and then an early dialogue scene. One version is kept in the channels they're in on the LaserDisc (so panned to left and right, I've just muted one channel or the other in an alternating pattern) and the other is centre-panned as 1-channel mono.

2ch (L/R panned as stored on LaserDisc):
https://mega.nz/#P!AgHy2SJNBsOFVUZkbYoDE...W5JJSRM6hA

1ch (mixed down / centre panned):
https://mega.nz/#P!AgEHH1JVAkpONJ9WwmD-i...PEPsh08XMw

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The right channel, as you can hear, is extremely muffled whilst also sounding very thin, as if it's being played through a tiny speaker (think clock radio / Game Boy) with a cloth draped over it or something. This is the sound of mono soundtracks in 2020, thanks to Criterion et al. It's really sad.

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  Green flashing in my video
Posted by: lionmane - 2020-12-16, 08:37 PM - Forum: General technical discussions - Replies (3)

I'm having a problem with an iso file while attempting to read it with VLC media player.  The entire screen (within the video) flashes green like a strobe light.  This problem only occurs with random files every once in a while, but it occurs reliably every time I attempt to play the "affected" file.  I have another iso file that works fine, for instance.  Windows 7.

I haven't attempted any troubleshooting because I wouldn't even know where to begin.  Can someone help me figure out what's happening, please?

Thanks!

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  John Woo's The Killer - Looking For Some Help...
Posted by: jrodefeld - 2020-12-15, 11:43 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (18)

I'm working on a new custom project for John Woo's The Killer.  I'm very nearly finished, but I am looking for a couple of DVDs.

I'm looking for the Scanbox DVD of The Killer and also the Fox Lorber DVD.

I know a couple of members of this forum have the Scanbox DVD.  In fact, somebody on here actually sent me a link to it a while ago.  Unfortunately, it somehow got deleted before I had a chance to use it.  I'm hoping someone could upload it again for me.  Dropbox or MEGA are preferable, but any cloud service is fine as long as I can download the files okay.

The Scanbox DVD is probably the best looking of the DVDs, but I'm not intending to use the video.  I'm using the Dragon Dynasty Blu-ray as the basis for my custom.  However, I recall the Cantonese audio on the Scanbox DVD sounding excellent and I want to compare it with the audio tracks I already have.

For the Fox Lorber DVD, I believe it has an alternate commentary with John Woo that is different from the one on the Criterion DVD.  I'm not positive of this, but I believe it is the case.

Also, I'm interested in the subtitles on that DVD.  I believe in that translation Chow Yun-Fat and Danny Lee's characters refer to each other as "Dumbo" and "Mickey Mouse".  A few people have requested that my custom include this particular translation as an option.


If I had to pick between the two, I'd say the Scanbox DVD is more important simply for the fact that it would be very expensive to import, shipping times would be very long, etc.  I can get the Fox Lorber DVD on Ebay really cheap.  Still, I wanted to put it out here first to see if anyone has it.


I'm happy to send a copy of the completed custom to anyone who helps out.  I also have a number of other customs I've done that I'd be willing to trade.


Thanks!

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  Amadeus (1984)
Posted by: lionmane - 2020-12-15, 07:54 AM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases - Replies (4)

I originally saw Amadeus a long time ago on VHS.  Most people might consider it boring, but I enjoyed it a lot.  And then I read a review on the Director's Cut.  The reviewer enjoyed the Director's Cut, but had a tiny problem with it: the reveal that Amadeus had had sex with Katerina.

In the original version, Antonio discovers that Amadeus had sex with Katerina when Constanze is introduced and Mozart smiles and laughs uncomfortably while looking at Katerina.  In the Director's Cut, Antonio only realizes it later when he goes to Katerina's dressing room.  The reviewer alleges that there's a greater "emotional impact" in the original version when Antonio realizes the affair sooner instead of waiting until the dressing room scene.  I thought this, too.  Unfortunately, I can't find the review anymore...

Has anyone done a fan cut of Amadeus?

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  Hi!
Posted by: lionmane - 2020-12-15, 06:54 AM - Forum: Presentation - No Replies

Hi!  I enjoy fan stuff!

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  Hello from paris
Posted by: Koltesian - 2020-12-14, 03:51 AM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (4)

Bonjours guys,
I'm an illustrator and I've I've been collecting dvds and blu from all over the world since forever but you can't always get the best release from the studios thank god for the fans out there who make these special gems.

While being on lockdown i moved and looked back at my restoration blu discs , some were lost, other needed to be actually burned as they were on my hd and wondered what was out there these days.

I discovered this forum while checking Sporv work (i have EFNY somewhere i think) and tracking down his saving private 'avp requiem '' release and I'm so glad to have find this place.

I used to be on cinemagueddon, cinematik, myspleen, asiandvdclub, BithQ but some disappeared, crashed and i also got away for a while so I'm trying to find my way back in.
So if you have any invites please don't be shy lol

I helped by sharing mostly remastered anime releases that were available in france like venus wars, or some sources like MOONTRAP or hashire melos from the LD.
Basically if I can help by providing sources I'd be really glad to.
I don't hit and run i wanna give back.

I have a lot of anime rareties, r2j blu with english subs, some team blu releases (terminator, conan, NOTLD saving awesome version) some are still on my hd lol i saw recently.

So i would really like to get back Into the game, maybe resharing what i have or help seeding especially since now i have a very high speed connection.

One of my project is to do a rework of southland tales the cannes cut from the hdtv.
Wonder if anybody would be interested.
It would be a learning curve for me.

Thanks again guys for all your work and long live the passion.

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  The films of Wong Kar Wai - original mixes
Posted by: NeonBible - 2020-12-13, 08:18 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (18)

So the new WKW set has been announced by Criterion and they will contain new revisionist versions. Ok fair enough he can do what he wants with his movies but pretty disappointed the original cuts won't be available alongside. Smells of George Lucas!

I'm looking to gather the original mixes of his movies. LaserDisc where possible, but old DVDs or even VCDs would be of interest to me.

Can anyone help?

Looking for these...

As Tears Go By - Cantonese mono
Days of Being Wild - Cantonese mono
Ashes of Time (theatrical cut) - Cantonese mono
Fallen Angels - Cantonese mono
Happy Together - Cantonese mono

Does anyone have the R2 JP Pony Canyon DVD of Ashes of Time? Supposedly looks pretty decent but I can't find any screencaps or info about it. OOP I believe.

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  multichannel audio capture card ≥ 4 line in
Posted by: spoRv - 2020-12-13, 05:41 PM - Forum: Capture and rip - Replies (4)

As it seems there is some interest in multichannel audio capture cards - useful to capture matrix decoders output, for example - I thought to start a list; features should be as following:

  • fair price - less than 500 quids
  • multichannel line input - 4 ch min, 8ch welcome
  • variable sample frequency - 44,1 & 48kHz min, 96kHz welcome
  • interface in order of preference: PCIe, PCI, USB, FireWire
  • Windows compatibility mandatory, WIN + MAC appreciated
  • RCA analog input/output are very welcome
  • S/PDIF digital input or output are highly appreciated

In production:

discontinued:

NOTE: only line inputs/outputs are taken in account

waiting for your inputs (pun intended!)

Related threads:

High-end audio capture cards (some with 4ch in) - https://fanrestore.com/thread-82.html
Dolby SDU4 Hardware Dolby Stereo/Surround decoding - https://fanrestore.com/thread-1850.html

last update: 2020-12-16

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  La Dolce Vita (1960) Japanese BD audio synced to Criterion Blu-ray
Posted by: sertoli - 2020-12-13, 03:36 AM - Forum: Released - No Replies

La Dolce Vita (1960) Japanese BD audio synced to Criterion Blu-ray

More info:

https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/search/lab...%281960%29


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  The Sound of Music (1965) DVD 2002 audios synced to Blu-ray
Posted by: sertoli - 2020-12-13, 03:08 AM - Forum: Released - Replies (1)

The Sound of Music (1965) DVD 2002 audios synced to Blu-ray


English (Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround) Synced to 50th Anniversary Blu-ray

English (Dolby Digital "4.1") Synced to 50th Anniversary Blu-ray



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From DVDCompare...

"Notes
- ABOUT THE AUDIO: There are some mixed reports, but the audio seems to be 4.1, which means that there are 3 discrete audio signals (left/center/right) with mono audio signal for the rear speakers. So the DVD player probably list this as 5.1. Also, the R1, R2 UK and R4 releases also include a 2.0 stereo track. The R2 Holland releases however do not."

So the 2002 DVD is L/C/R and mono surrounds. Whether that is called 4.1 I dont know, there is no LFE channel. But I have confirmed the surrounds is mono, but on 40th Anni the surrounds slightly stereo.

So I think 2002 DVD is more accurate to 70mm 6 track mix. Both have directional dialogue, but 2002 has the apron slap sound. 40th Anni has reaches slightly higher frequencies.


I believe 2002 DVD is just a reissue of disc1 of Five Star edition so should be the same. Whats strange though is specs on the back cover say 4.1 but its actually 5.1. It still has the apron slap sound and directional dialogue though.

Thanks a lot, NeonBible.

  • Language : English (Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround), English (Dolby Digital "4.1")

DVD 2002 = 5.0 inside 5.1 container (silent LFE channel).


Funny thing is on the DVD menu of 2002 it says 4.1 still!


The 2.0 should still maintain the 70mm mix with a phantom centre channel.

Actually I think the 2.0 is the same as the laserdisc.

Likely to the be the exact same mix as Five Star/2002 DVD but of course lossless PCM!


Thanks again, NeonBible.


More info:


https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/2016/09/th...mment-form

https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/The-Sound-of...VD/217765/

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