Hello again Fanres

Once again I need the help of the hive brain

I understand before Discrete 5.1, mixes used to incorporate a surround via a matrix into 2 channel stereo.
Is there any software or method of extracting this information into discrete channel file?
I gather it would be L C R & S with a LFE created by a crossover//cutoff.

Ive spent the last few days scouring the interwebs with no satisfactory results to speak off.

Thanks again for you time peeps

This is a Crossmux of Equilibrium (2002) combining shots from the JPN Blu Ray and the US Open Matte Blu Ray, something I wanted to do for quite a while.

Personally, I like to call this project:

Equilibrium - Ultimatte Edition

Now, you may wonder what the hell a "Crossmux" is. I use this term to describe a project that combines shots from various Blu Ray Editions with as little reencoding as possible. Specifically, the only reencoding took place at the cut points. Most of the video stream is an 1:1 copy of the corresponding video streams in the original Blu Rays, so there is virtually no quality loss. This was achieved with TMPGEnc Smart Renderer 5.

Here's what this is ultimattely (pun intended) about: 

Equilibrium in one of the US Blu Rays is presented in an Open Matte version, showing more image on the top/bottom than the scoped OAR (original aspect ratio) version. This is great, because I personally love seeing more. But this version also has a downside: Some shots, in particular VFX shots, actually show more image in the Scope version and are strongly zoomed in for the Open Matte version, degrading the quality and robbing you of some available image. Granted, the Open Matte version even has more headroom in those VFX shots, but only minimally so and the cost for it is a great loss of image at the sides.

So I decided to replace those zoomed in shots with shots from the best known Scope source, the JPN Blu Ray. Specifically, I used the AVISynth plugin AutoOverlay to determine exactly which segments show more image in the Scope version and then went on to replace all those, after fixing some detection errors by hand. In total there are ca. 110 final cuts in between the two sources. In a handful of shots, the gains are minimal, in a particularly extreme case below 1 percent, but in most shots the gains are larger. 

I tried to calculate the precise amount of gain, but it's difficult, because the overlay detection wasn't flawless in all cases. Here are some of the most useful numbers in my opinion (but take them with a grain of salt, as they aren't 100% accurate due to mentioned issues): The Median gain of image in the replaced scope shots is roughly 15.5% compared to the Open Matte shots. The Median gain of image in the Open Matte shots compared to the scope shots is roughly 31.5%. 

So, whether you have seen the Open Matte or the Scope version, you gain a little image in either case. The vast majority of shots is Open Matte. 

Caveat with mild spoiler: In one case the JPN and Open Matte Blu Rays weren't perfectly in sync. It's when Preston gets back out of his car to put the dog in the trunk. In the JPN version the shot of his face while making the decision stays longer and there's an additional shot of his hand turning the keys back off. To not sacrifice any image, I used the beginning of the face shot from the Open Matte and the last few frames from the JPN, as they were missing in the Open Matte. It's not a big deal, but it may look a tad awkward, so don't be surprised.

The audio was taken straight from the JPN Blu Ray and is perfectly (frame accurately) in sync with that Blu Ray. This is a great step up from the stereo track available on the Open Matte Blu Ray, which was always one of its major criticisms alongside with the zoomed in shots.

TLDR: This version takes the shots that show the most image from both Open Matte US and scoped JPN Blu Ray versions, and is synced to the great audio of the JPN Blu Ray. It's the ultimatte version of Equilibrium.

I also included a Dolby Headphone track for your viewing pleasure. Enjoy!

Available on Blutopia.

LAST UPDATE: 2018-04-20

I’d like to know which title of the following list

has not a DVD and/or BD edition with a DTS soundtrack
OR
where the DTS soundtrack is present, the DVD/BD edition is different from theatrical presentation but the laserdisc is the same
OR
the DTS soundtrack is half bitrate (768kbps) - where laserdisc are 1441kbps - or the quality is not that good
OR
simply, there is no DVD or BD edition at all!

This to determine which title could be eligible for a DTS soundtrack restoration, using the laserdisc DTS soundtrack and the best video available (BD or, if not available, DVD or, if there is no digital edition at all, the laserdisc video).

So, here you are a list of NTSC USA laserdiscs with DTS Digital Surround soundtrack:

1. … 12 Monkeys (1995) 43208
   
2. … Alien Resurrection (1997) 0032584
   
3. … Apollo 13 (1995) 43119 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
   
4. … Armageddon (1998) 16066 AS -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
   
5. … Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery: Special Edition (1997) ID4402LI -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
   
6. … Babe (1995) 43209 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
   
7. … Blade (1998) ID5423LI -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
   
8. … Blown Away (1994) ML106171
   
9. … Boogie Nights (1997) ID4415LI
   
10. … Born on the Fourth of July (1989) *** ID4482MC -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
11. … Broken Arrow (1996) 0896384
    
12. … Carlito’s Way (1993) ID4425MC
    
13. … Casino (1995) 43117 -> The BD is DTS 5.1 but likely a new mix.
    
14. … Casper (1995) 43120
    
15. … Con Air (1997) 12881 AS
    
16. … Crimson Tide (1995) 12156 AS
    
17. … Crow, The (1994) 12157 AS
    
18. … Dante’s Peak (1997) 43364 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
19. … Dark City (1998) ID4643LI -> theatrical was reissued as a bonus to the Director’s cut and not in DTS.
    
20. … Daylight (1996) 43271 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
21. … Deep Rising (1998) 15066 AS
    
22. … Die Hard (1988) *** 0890584 -> original sound mix altered for all 5.1 remixes.
    
23. … Die Hard 2: Die Harder (1990) *** 0890684 -> original sound mix altered for all 5.1 remixes.
    
24. … Die Hard 3: With A Vengeance (1995) 0885884 -> New BD audio very strong but not as detailed as a 1995 film should be, suspect a remix and not theatrical. -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
25. … Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story (1993) ID4426MC
    
26. … Dragonheart (1996) 43207 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
27. … Eagles: Hell Freezes Over (1994) ID4065GF -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
28. … English Patient, The (1996) 12356 AS
    
29. … Eric Clapton: Unplugged (1992) ID4747WO
    
30. … Evita (1996) §§§ 12096 AS -> original theatrical sound was Dolby Digital.
    
31. … Firestorm (1997) 0277384
    
32. … Flubber (1997) 14687 AS
    
33. … Frighteners, The (1996) 43274
    
34. … From Dusk Till Dawn (1996) 12160 AS
    
35. … Game, The (1997) ID4386PG
    
36. … Gate to the Mind’s Eye, The (1994) ID4068MM
    
37. … Get Shorty (1995) ML107093
    
38. … Getaway, The (1994) ID4471MC
    
39. … Goldeneye: Special Edition (1995) ML105987 -> 2006 BD loses it’s thunderous bass and LFE.
    
40. … Good Will Hunting (1997) 15112 AS
    
41. … Great Expectations (1998) 0449284
    
42. … Halloween: H20 (1998) 16070 AS
    
43. … Happy Gilmore (1996) ID4423MC
    
44. … Hard Target (1993) 43276
    
45. … Heart and Souls (1993) ID4483MC
    
46. … Hercules (1997) 15067 AS -> This Disney films all get 7.1 remixes nowadays, so the laserdisc DTS soundtrack is the original.
    
47. … Hoodlum (1997) ML107094
    
48. … Hunchback of Notre Dame, The (1996) 12354 AS -> This Disney films all get 7.1 remixes nowadays, so the laserdisc DTS soundtrack is the original.
    
49. … In the Mouth of Madness: Special Edition (1994) ID3751LI -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
50. … In the Name of the Father (1993) ID4484MC
    
51. … Independence Day: ID4 (1996) 0411884
    
52. … Jackal, The (1997) ID4424MC -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
53. … Jackie Brown (1997) 15065 AS -> BD mix is DTS 5.1 but may be sweetened as Tarantino likes to tweak his films for video.
    
54. … Jackie Chan’s First Strike (1996) ID4713LI -> American dubbed and re-cut version.
    
55. … Jurassic Park (1993) 43115
    
56. … Kingpin (1996) ML107092
    
57. … Kull the Conqueror (1997) ID4422MC
    
58. … Last Man Standing (1996) ID3735LI
    
59. … Liar Liar (1997) 43365 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
60. … Long Kiss Goodnight, The (1996) ID3738LI
    
61. … Lost in Space (1998) ID4712LI
    
62. … Lost World, The: Jurassic Park (1997) 43366
    
63. … Man in the Iron Mask, The: Special Edition (1998) ML107203
    
64. … Mask, The (1994) ID3752LI
    
65. … Mimic (1997) 14343 AS
    
66. … Mortal Kombat: Annihilation (1997) ID4421LI
    
67. … Mortal Kombat: Special Edition (1995) ID3753LI -> The audio on the Mortal Kombat BD is weak compared to the DTS LD. There was also a commentary track never carried over to DVD or Blu.
    
68. … Most Wanted (1997) ID4716LI
    
69. … Mr. Holland’s Opus (1995) 12161 AS
    
70. … Mr. Nice Guy (1997) ID4715LI
    
71. … Mulholland Falls (1996) ML107089
    
72. … Nightmare Before Christmas, The (1993) 12162 AS
    
73. … Nutty Professor, The (1996) 43272 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
74. … Phenomenon (1996) 12159 AS
    
75. … Pocahontas (1995) 12158 AS -> This Disney films all get 7.1 remixes nowadays, so the laserdisc DTS soundtrack is the original.
    
76. … Pulp Fiction (1994) 12154 AS
    
77. … Quest, The (1996) 43367
    
78. … Red Corner (1997) ML107096
    
79. … River Wild, The (1994) 43275 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
80. … Rob Roy (1995) ML107090
    
81. … Rock, The (1996) 12155 AS
    
82. … Ronin: Special Edition (1998) ML107602 -> BD uses LD DTS bitrate so it may be the same track.
    
83. … Rush Hour (1998) ID5477LI
    
84. … Schindler’s List (1993) 43277
    
85. … Scream 2 (1997) 14607 AS
    
86. … Scream: Director’s Edition (1996) 14797 AS
    
87. … Seven (1995) ID3750LI
    
88. … Shadow, The (1994) 43116 -> The German BD has LD DTS bitrate so it may be the same and theatrical; there was an early DVD of The Shadow with a DTS track, fullscreen unfortunately.
    
89. … Shine (1996) ID3957LI
    
90. … Six Days Seven Nights (1998) 16069 AS
    
91. … Spawn: The Movie: Special Edition (1997) ID4236LI
    
92. … Species (1995) ML105760
    
93. … Speed (1994) 0896784
    
94. … Stargate: Deluxe Edition (1994) LD 60231-DTS -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
95. … Strange Days (1995) 0893984
    
96. … Street Fighter (1994) 43368
    
97. … Sudden Death (1995) 43210
    
98. … Super Speedway: IMAX (1997) ID4717OW
    
99. … Timecop (1994) 43211
    
100. … Tina Turner: Live in Amsterdam (1996) ID4019ER
     
101. … Titanic (1997) LV334812-WSDTS
     
102. … Tomorrow Never Dies (1997) ML107148 -> 2006 BD loses the surround clarity and in it’s unbelievable discrete effects.
     
103. … Toy Story (1995) 12153 AS -> LD original mix, Blu-ray has a DTS-ES 6.1 remix
     
104. … True Lies (1994) 0864084
     
105. … Vertigo (1958) *** 43212 -> is the bad 5.1 remix with horridly intrusive new foley work. The new BD mix is supposedly a new and more faithful mix. The film is best in original mono.
     
106. … Village of the Damned (1995) 43278
     
107. … Volcano (1997) 0603984
     
108. … Wag the Dog (1997) ID4646LI
     
109. … Waterworld (1995) 43118 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
     
110. … Wedding Singer, The (1998) ID4686LI
     
111. … West Side Story (1961) ML107088 -> LD is a transfer of the original 70mm six-track audio mix
     
112. … X-Files: The Movie (1998) 0044884
     

Working on a custom isolated music track, where official soundtrack tracks are placed in sync with movie audio; what's about blank parts? Should I replace them with the movie track (eventually with needed fade ins/outs)? Or with movie track without dialogs? Or should I leave them blank, silenced?

EDIT: and, why, out of curiosity, the CD soundtrack, once aligned, is perfectly in sync with a 23.976fps source?

For those of you near the Castro in San Francisco, they will be showing a brand new 70mm print of 2001... Check out the description. Sounds really promising!

The Castro is proud to be screening a new 70MM print for the 50th Anniversary presentation of Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece.
For the first time since the original film’s release, this 70mm print was struck from new printing elements
made from the original camera negative, meaning it’s a true photochemical film recreation.
There are no digital tricks, remastered effects, or revisionist edits.
(1968, 142 min plus intermission, 70mm 'Scope)

http://www.castrotheatre.com/coming-soon.html

I'm guessing this print will be making the rounds... so keep an eye out in the coming months!

You must admit almost all, here, would be more than happy to see the laserdisc format alive, again.
New movies on a long-time dead format... and, of course, anybody knows that it will never happen - even if a Digital Laserdisc built upon BD technology will lead to a 1.2TB monster disc that could contain an entire UHD long saga as Star Wars, or few long TV series seasons on HD, or... well, a lot of things!

OK, back on Planet Earth, and on topic: would be possible to get a laserdisc "Renaissance" on Blu-ray? I think so!

Laserdisc is not (only) an analog video format (with analog and/or digital audio); it's much more than this! It brought us a lot of innovations - widescreen, director's cut, digital audio, multichannel audio, multi audio tracks, special editions, box sets etc. and, without it, probably DVD and BD would never have existed.

We love that physical, huge disc... that big cover (better if gatefold, perfect if within box set) with great arts, liner notes... often inserts that were not mere chapter lists, but insights of interesting facts about the movie, or the format itself...

Video wise, even if it was top notch at the times, it can't stand HD (and UHD) formats of nowadays; still, sometimes its color timing (I guess the digital color grading was not applied on them) was similar to the one seen in the theaters (apart the obvious problems due to format and transfers); and sometimes it still has colors and/or contrast better than DVD and/or BD.

Audio wise, it's still a great pleasure to listen to a laserdisc track; very often they used the theatrical mixes, while not all the times those mixes were used for the DVD and BD editions, in particular when we talk about mono and stereo tracks.

Said so, I don't want to say that laserdisc is perfect, and blu-ray is a bad format, at the contrary: blu-ray is a great format itself - very good definition, lossless multichannel audio; still, sometimes, the content is not, well... "right"?

We got blu-ray editions with "wrong" colors and/or contrast, audio mixes, poor covers etc. - a format that good deserves more than this.

Now, you are asking yourself: 'What all this has to do with a so-called laserdisc "Renaissance"'?

Well, let me explain. We would love to get laserdisc back to life. We all know it will not be possible (unless a crazy multi-millionaire guy would do it for us, at loss, but it will not happen, probably...). Still, we can do something to bring laserdisc "spirit and/or flesh" in the blu-ray world. How?

Packaging:
 
recently, Disney, Warner and others have made a sort of analog revival, offering laserdisc/vinyl sized covers for their blu-ray and DVD - they called "Vinyl Edition" here in Italy.

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PostImages is still using postimages.org for their front-end to upload pictures, but has changed it's download domain from postimg.org to postimg.cc :



Is there some internal macro for FanRes to automatically change ALL images from postimg.org/.. to postimg.cc/.. ?

Always great to find places that celebrate the fixing/restoration/re-editing of movies.

I never knew so many films had the colors changed from the original. Looks like great work going on to restore some of those flicks!

I do have many edits that I have done myself and I am always working on something. I have around 100 films that have been edited so far.

Happy to see another place for film changes and the people who change them. Too cool! But that is just my opinion man. . .

I don't feel like this is big enough of a thing to justify calling a "Complete project", but neither is it really a Bonus feature, so not sure where else to post it. Feel free to move it elsewhere.

Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back 1980 1080p 35mm Renegade Grindhouse v1 GOUT-synced
Includes all the audio tracks from the Despecialized Edition v2!

This is based on the following release: Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 1080p 35mm PCM Renegade Grindhouse v1 x264

The video was (almost) losslessly synced to the GOUT, based on Chewtobacca's GOUT syncs, and all audio tracks and subtitles from the Despecialized edition were muxed in.

The only GOUT synced scan - to my knowledge - so far has been the Dreamastered version, but I personally prefer the untouched colors. I didn't want to reencode and further degrade the quality, so I used TMPGEnc Smart Renderer 5 to almost losslessly sync the original video stream to the GOUT. The only reencoding took place at the splits/cuts, of which there are around 20 spread across the movie. This means that virtually all of this movie is, in terms of quality, 1:1 identical to the original release.

At the cutpoints there is a very slight discoloration due to some color space issues I had, but it only affects looped static frames and should be virtually unnoticeable. 

The original 35mm optical audio was automatically synced as well. Areas where the film scan contained no frames and thus no audio (those were looped) were automatically filled with silence.

Thanks to the synced output I was able to mux in all the audio tracks from the Despecialized Edition v2. This includes the 5.1 by Hairy_Hen, the original Dolby Stereo from Laserdisc PCM tracks and the 16mm mono mix and several other tracks, including other languages. (I hope I got it right. Check the Despecialized Edition v2 for more details)

The DTS-HD MA tracks were losslessly transcoded to FLAC, as was the PCM track, to keep file size low. Quality is identical. 

The subtitles that were included in the Despecialized Edition were all muxed into the mkv for your convenience. 

I also created a Dolby Headphone track from Hairy_Hen's 5.1 mix using foobar2000 and included this as lossless FLAC as well. Made sure there was no clipping, of course. Enjoy, headphone enthusiasts!

Credit goes to the people who made the Grindhouse scan available and who put in the meticulous effort to prepare all the audio and subtitle tracks! Thanks!

To be found on Blutopia.

Has anyone tried or had experience creating an MKV with two video tracks?

I assume both tracks have to be the same length and in general sync up to the same audio tracks but I was more curious about it compatibility-wise with video players. I see the option to switch video track in the MPC family and VLC for example, so those should be fine. It's other players I'm uncertain of.