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  Hi
Posted by: scoccerboy4 - 2023-11-17, 08:53 PM - Forum: Presentation - No Replies

Hello there!

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  Red River (1948) Pre-Release Cut Audio
Posted by: M A - 2023-11-16, 04:10 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - No Replies

Hi, I have been looking into the best audio for the pre-release cut of Red River. I currently have the Wild Side BD, the Criterion BD, and the Capelight BD.

If anyone has the audio from the Eureka BD, the 20th Century Fox BD, or any of the old DVDs or Laserdiscs, then I would greatly appreciate them 😁

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  Goliath Awaits (1981)
Posted by: bendermac - 2023-11-14, 07:47 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (1)

For some reason I was thinking about this movie and it never got a proper release on DVD or even on BD.
Does anyone have a good version of it?
I know it's probably a low interest movie, but it's with Christopher Lee and would love to see it again, in good quality.

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  Hello
Posted by: GjRedo - 2023-11-14, 07:47 AM - Forum: Presentation - No Replies

Hi there folks Smile

Hope we will abe able to help each-other.

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  Death Machine (1994) UK Director's Cut
Posted by: alleycat - 2023-11-12, 10:37 PM - Forum: Released - Replies (24)

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Death Machine has been released on Blu Ray in Germany, featuring the 122 minute extended cut. There also exists a much shorter US R Rated release and a 116 minute version that was only released on DVD in the UK.

According to IMDB (obviously anyone can post on there) Director Stephen Norrington considers the 116 minute version to be his Director’s Cut and he hates the 122 minute version.

What is interesting is the only differences between the two occur during the first 15 minutes. Given that 15 minutes is the approximate length of a reel, our theory is that when the UK DVD was made it was scanned from a set of reels. And then when the German DVD/Blu Ray was scanned something happened to reel one. Instead of using reel one from the Director approved version, they somehow got hold of a reel from a workprint or master.

Obviously there is no way to prove any of this, but it’s the only theory we could any up with that addressed the fact that the only differences are during that first 15 minutes.

EDIT - we now have a full explanation from Director Stephen Norrington:

Just before the movie was finalized and released in 1993 I was conflicted about whether Death Machine was good or crap – my ego was such that it was hard for me to accept that the movie was too long or dragged but many people were telling me it was too long and my gut also was telling me the truth: the movie was too long, more specifically too slow (long isn’t bad if the movie’s compelling, Terminator 2 for example) – thus, despite my ego resisting the truth, I knew deep down the movie felt too long which meant it was not particularly compelling.

The problem was compounded by the movie being edited on film (this was before any form of digital picture editing was easily available) – the pacing of a film therefore depended on the instincts of the editor from day one to day delivery, it wasn’t something that could easily be changed at the last minute – I knew in my heart that the slow pace of death machine was partly because the editor was cautious and old school, prioritizing matching actions over editorial energy but mostly because I had forced him to run things long because I couldn’t bear to make things shorter, I was just too convinced of the awesomeness of every frame – in my defense it was the first movie I had ever made so I didn’t really understand much about pacing, I learned that the hard way – but, let’s be honest, the movie was slow and not particularly compelling because I had not let the editor cut freely.

So, when the UK distributor complained the movie was too long (and what they really meant was the movie wasn’t compelling – the actual phrase they used was “it’s good, not great”), I said I could make it better given the film process and the limited time available by recutting only the first reel – it was deemed impractical to recut the whole movie – they agreed so I personally recut reel one on a flatbed machine and we redid the sound – then a new interneg was struck from the reel one interpos and the interneg conformed by neg cutters to create the source for the UK delivery interpos – thus the UK reel one is one generation down from the rest of the movie – a legacy of the film process - I thought the new reel one was better and the distributors agreed so that was what went out in the UK – the recut reel one work print and conformed interneg probably still exists somewhere but I’ve never been able find it.

So this project is a recreation of the UK DVD 116 version, using the footage from the German Blu ray. Aside from one line of opening credits and a 16 frame shot, everything was present in the Blu Ray. One moving shot had to be cut so it transitioned to a different shot - see below. Considering there are only differences in the first 15 minutes, there are a hell of a lot of differences! Shots are shorter, rearranged, cut together with other shots etc.

Once the video had been recut I addressed the colour. I felt the German Blu Ray was rather dull and teal looking. The UK DVD is really blue in parts which I liked but the DVD also really dark at times. There is a German DVD of the extended version which also had a lot of blue, however the highlights are completely blown. Therefore neither of those options could be used for a full blown DrDre style regrade. So I used both of those as a partial reference and regraded it myself in Premiere using lumetri colour and RGB curves.

The audio from the DVD was converted to wav and retimed to 23.976. It’s a 2.0 Dolby Surround track, the AC3 on the DVD was only 192 khz but it doesn’t sound too bad.

The subtitles were taken from the Blu Ray, they also had to be recut with the video and then proof checked to ensure they still play correctly.

Finally the small amount of extras were ported over from the Blu Ray.

Huge thanks to my colleague/collaborator @Pineapples101 who came up with the idea for this project and helped me at various stages.

  • BD25 with a menu, background video, pop up menu and resume function
  • 1080P taken from the Blu Ray with Colour Grading
  • English 2.0 WAV
  • English SDH Subtitles
  • Featurette
  • Trailer

PM me for the links, contributing/long term members only please. Contributing means active members of the forum who post and/or make their own projects.

High Resolution cover and disc art available from @Pineapples101 Here.

Here is the shot I had to cut so it transitioned correctly (the edge on the second shot isn't that jagged in the final version):

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Here are some before and after colour correction shots (before/after):

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Menu Shots:

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Just to clarify this is a project that I have made for myself which I am choosing to share. If you don't like the project, if you think it should have been done differently then feel free to keep that to yourself and consider doing your own project.

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  Hey!
Posted by: Peter1983 - 2023-11-12, 07:39 PM - Forum: Presentation - No Replies

Hi i'm new. Just checking out all of the amazing projects!

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  The Prince of Egypt R1 DVD Full Bit-rate DTS
Posted by: dr_treves - 2023-11-08, 06:56 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (1)

Hi there,

I recently acquired and ripped the DTS track from the original Region 1 release of The Prince of Egypt. I was wondering if anybody ever managed to match it up to the retail 4K Blu-ray?

Further to this, was there ever a Cinema DTS track made available for this?

PS. I can share the DVD DTS track for anybody who cares to help. Just send me a PM.

All the best Wink

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  Army of One 1993 (Joshua Tree) DVD Artisan
Posted by: DeafYakuza - 2023-11-08, 06:00 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (6)

Hi guys,

I am looking for a DVD of Army of One (Joshua Tree) from 1993 unrated version released by Artisan. All the late versions are edited for R-rated (DC), self the director preferred his Rated version.
Just I am editing on my project for unrated version in HD (SD materials are upscaled by AI) but I need a original and unedited English track (Surround).
If someone have this DVD in his collection, please contact me by PN.

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  Cobra (1986) Workprint does it exist?
Posted by: walkingthedarksun - 2023-11-08, 02:16 AM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases - Replies (1)

Does anyone here think the Cobra workprint exists? I've heard from many forums that it does to it doesn't. I don't think there was workprint collecting in the 80's so any help would be appreciated.

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  Hello
Posted by: dagscott - 2023-11-06, 09:03 PM - Forum: Presentation - No Replies

Long-time hobbyist in terms of digital fancuts/restorations, mostly associated with The Good The Bad and the Ugly.

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