2017-12-14, 07:35 AM
(This post was last modified: 2018-10-26, 10:58 PM by SpaceBlackKnight.)
Edit: As of 10/26 2018, this topic pertains to the talk and preservation and talk of all rare studio logos, in addition to those that appeared on foreign prints like CIC and Buena Vista International.
This eariler discussion was about CIC and UIP. For those unfamiliar with who these companies were and what they did, some background info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_Int...orporation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Int...l_Pictures
These used to show up on international prints of many Universal, Paramount, and MGM films until around 2007 ish (2002 for MGM as they went to Fox for worldwide distribution from there on), but most current releases of stuff like say BTTF or Battlestar Galactica use elements mostly from Negatives or Interpositives in the US.
Basically, this topic is to pinpoint which releases use ether international masters or film originally made in Europe and are likely still on the negs or elements used for those releases.
What I found so far:
The Slipper and the Rose - CIC intact on US Inception Media DVD and BD releases (may also be on the Second Sight UK releases?)
Watership Down (Criterion Collection DVD and BD) - CIC intact on trailer
The Lost Honor of Katharina Blum - CIC intact on Criterion DVD (May not be intact on StudioCanal Blu-rays?)
Battlestar Galactica (1979 theatrical version) - CIC intact on German trailer on DE Koch Media BD series set
Mission Galactica: The Cylon Attack - See above
César et Rosalie - variant of CIC logo intact on US DVD
Buck Rogers of the 21st Century (1980 theatrical version) - CIC intact on German trailer on DE Koch Media BD series set
Now finding films with a UIP logo intact is much harder than CIC. I've only found the 1986 logo in 2 places, the Image DVD of Biggles: Adventures in Time and one of the trailers (I think it was the UK one) for The Living Daylights on the MGM DVD releases (the BD IIRC omitted it on the HD version of the same UK trailer). I was lucky enough though to find the 2001 logo in decent quality on a US DVD of the Danish film, Elling, and no common release of anything has shown up with the 1995 or last (2004) logos anywhere aside from a few low quality bootlegs made from theatrical prints.
If anyone knows of a DVD/VHS/TV/BD/Web-DL print of something that contains a CIC or UIP logo not on this list, feel free to mention it here. I know this is pointless to some, but these were seen on film many have seen outside of the US, and therefore are part of film preservation.
This eariler discussion was about CIC and UIP. For those unfamiliar with who these companies were and what they did, some background info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_Int...orporation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Int...l_Pictures
These used to show up on international prints of many Universal, Paramount, and MGM films until around 2007 ish (2002 for MGM as they went to Fox for worldwide distribution from there on), but most current releases of stuff like say BTTF or Battlestar Galactica use elements mostly from Negatives or Interpositives in the US.
Basically, this topic is to pinpoint which releases use ether international masters or film originally made in Europe and are likely still on the negs or elements used for those releases.
What I found so far:
The Slipper and the Rose - CIC intact on US Inception Media DVD and BD releases (may also be on the Second Sight UK releases?)
Watership Down (Criterion Collection DVD and BD) - CIC intact on trailer
The Lost Honor of Katharina Blum - CIC intact on Criterion DVD (May not be intact on StudioCanal Blu-rays?)
Battlestar Galactica (1979 theatrical version) - CIC intact on German trailer on DE Koch Media BD series set
Mission Galactica: The Cylon Attack - See above
César et Rosalie - variant of CIC logo intact on US DVD
Buck Rogers of the 21st Century (1980 theatrical version) - CIC intact on German trailer on DE Koch Media BD series set
Now finding films with a UIP logo intact is much harder than CIC. I've only found the 1986 logo in 2 places, the Image DVD of Biggles: Adventures in Time and one of the trailers (I think it was the UK one) for The Living Daylights on the MGM DVD releases (the BD IIRC omitted it on the HD version of the same UK trailer). I was lucky enough though to find the 2001 logo in decent quality on a US DVD of the Danish film, Elling, and no common release of anything has shown up with the 1995 or last (2004) logos anywhere aside from a few low quality bootlegs made from theatrical prints.
If anyone knows of a DVD/VHS/TV/BD/Web-DL print of something that contains a CIC or UIP logo not on this list, feel free to mention it here. I know this is pointless to some, but these were seen on film many have seen outside of the US, and therefore are part of film preservation.