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[Proposal] Mad max (1979) audio preserv
Can you give us some real world examples Stamper?

Like a video or audio file comparing these things. The UHD vs. this 2001 DVD or vs the Aus broadcast? I want to hear what you are talking about since I don't know much about the original Aus mono mix.
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I could stitch up together a vid, but need to convert the mpeg2 DVD footage to h264 to do a comparison.

The Australian DVD mono mix could be the same as the US 2001 downmix though, I need to compare more moments to make sure.

Basically the video in the first post, draws out the differences. Unlike some have mentioned, the Australian moments in that video aren't the american dub, they are the true Australian mix as we know it in Europe, as release by Warner on the DVD and on my preserv.
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Anyone in the UK can get this https://www.ebay.fr/itm/353310040339 ? The UK VHS with australian dialogue from the early 90's.

The shipping is too stiff to my country, but one should be able to get it shipped cheap within the UK.
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(2020-12-08, 08:04 AM)Stamper Wrote: Anyone in the UK can get this https://www.ebay.fr/itm/353310040339 ? The UK VHS with australian dialogue from the early 90's.

The shipping is too stiff to my country, but one should be able to get it shipped cheap within the UK.

Jonno already has this

Mad max (1979) audio preserv (7) (fanres.com)
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I think he's off on a long lost week-end with this LOL
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(2020-12-07, 09:02 PM)Stamper Wrote: I could stitch up together a vid, but need to convert the mpeg2 DVD footage to h264 to do a comparison.

The Australian DVD mono mix could be the same as the US 2001 downmix though, I need to compare more moments to make sure.

Basically the video in the first post, draws out the differences. Unlike some have mentioned, the Australian moments in that video aren't the american dub, they are the true Australian mix as we know it in Europe, as release by Warner on the DVD and on my preserv.

Maybe use MakeMKV to rip the PAL disc to an MKV file. Then you can use MKVcleaver or whatever to pull the DVD track out. I'd personally LOVE to hear this mix. I might even be able to sync it if it isn't too difficult. Smile
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Checking out the European Blu-ray disc:

- German dub has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Italian dub has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Spanish dub 1 has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Spanish dub 2 has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Portugal dub has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Tchek dub has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Hungary dub has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Polish dub has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Russian dub has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
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(2020-12-08, 08:26 PM)Stamper Wrote: Checking out the European Blu-ray disc:

- German dub has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Italian dub has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Spanish dub 1 has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Spanish dub 2 has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Portugal dub has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Tchek dub has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Hungary dub has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Polish dub has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)
- Russian dub has the "extra" sounds (same as Warner Europe DVD)

My conclusion is: the current "mono" on the 4K disc, that is also to be found on australian TV airings, may be an unfinished mix that at some point in the early 80's, replaced the real finalised australian dub, due to material being lost.

The real mono is the one on the Warner Europe DVD.

The 5.1 remix in both versions (US and AU) is based on an unfinished mix due to material being lost.

4K UHD mono aussie track is the real original mono track. Those early dvd's mono tracks including Warner UK dvd are hybrid mixes. Even italian vhs dub doesn't have those "missing sounds" and to my ear those effects sounds fake & out of place. Thats why this 5.1 aussie remix track contains different effects because it's based on to this original REAL mono track. 

Why is it so hard to accept this? 
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