[No Longer Available] The Dark Knight Scope/2.35 Version (Quick Project v1.0)

[Beber]

A +1-frame delay (+42 ms) will sync both region B Blu-ray and UHD audio and subtitle tracks to this one.

[Stamper]

Thank you PDB for this release. The Cinema DTS is just ear blowingly awesome, going back and forth, I can hear the BR audio has the dynamics squashed, and is a louder in your face with thus a narrower dynamic range.

Also this version doesn't have the salmon faces in the bunker scenes (the Batman's lair) that plagues the 4K (we will forget the horrible initial blu-ray disc which is unwatchable).

[Stamper]

PS PDB, to redo an IMAX version of this, wouldn't it be more accurate to have the scope image within the confines of the 4/3 IMAX ratio?

Because if you have the IMAX shots in 4/3, and the scope shots in full 16/9, it's not playing like the IMAX was. The IMAX should be the same width as the scope, only taller, like it is on the Blu-ray (alas, cropped to 16/9).

[PDB]

PS PDB, to redo an IMAX version of this, wouldn't it be more accurate to have the scope image within the confines of the 4/3 IMAX ratio?

Because if you have the IMAX shots in 4/3, and the scope shots in full 16/9, it's not playing like the IMAX was. The IMAX should be the same width as the scope, only taller, like it is on the Blu-ray (alas, cropped to 16/9).

That's technically true. But its only workable if you have a older 4:3 TV. That would be the consumer equipment that would match the ~ 4:3 aspect ratio of "true" IMAX scenes. You could have the IMAX shots as full screen and letterbox the scope, all within the 4:3 ratio. I think this was briefly discussed in the other TDK thread.

Problem is none of that works on a modern 16:9 TV. You would end up having to window-box the scope shots. No one is going to like the look of black bars on every side. That's not a workable look. It would also basically toss away resolution. The final scope picture would only be 1440x803 versus 1920x803 of the BD and my projects.

So you are basically left with only compromised choices for 16:9 TVs:

1. Window-box the scope shots which would have bars on all four sides (Scope 1440x803, IMAX 1440x1080)
2. Crop the IMAX down to a 16:9 ratio like the official BD (Scope 1920x803, IMAX 1920x1080 cropped)
3. Or do what I did and use side black bars for the IMAX shots (Scope 1920x803, IMAX 1440x1080 non-cropped)

Since I wanted to present the IMAX shots un-cropped, 3 was the only workable solution. Its was the only to present everything un-cropped with max resolution and not floating in the middle of a screen, window-boxed.

Got to pick your poison.

[Stamper]

The all widescreen version looks fantastic to me.

[PDB]

Any other takers?

[Stamper]

PDB, was there a release of BB and TDKR with the Cinema DTS tracks?

Cos I fell in love with this one here, it's so much better than the regular BR disc version.

[zoidberg]

Supposedly the UHDs have the original far-field mixes, don't know if anyone here has them to compare

[Stamper]

I didn't compare TDK, I just compared the two tracks on PDB version.
I'm going to try a mux (the easiest way to compare switching from one to the other).
I wouldn't be surprised if the DR was reduced on the UHD versions even if they are the same mixes.

That's why the Cinema DTS is so awesome, when the window blasts at the beginning, it sounds as hard hitting as in the theater.

[zoidberg]

A true IMAX home version is possible but as PDB says to do it properly you would need a 4:3 display, preferably a projector throwing a huge image, obviously the old CRTs were 4:3, most 4:3 digital/solid-state projectors aren't necessarily the best for video as they are mostly for data so the best bet would be a 16:9 home theatre project with an anamorphic lens to bring the image back to 4:3. You probably could use a 16:9 projector 'windowboxed' but the lens would maximise the pixels used and light output as well as help make the image bigger. In that case the project would have to be encoded 16:9 but  with the IMAX footage stretched horizontally and the standard cinemascope footage squeezed down vertically. So the question becomes would it be worth it? It would be pretty cool but the screen would have to be huge (or you would have to be sitting very close) to get the true IMAX feel.
I suppose you could use VR goggles as well, use the stereo effect to give it the scale needed