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[Help] Passionnément (2000) subtitle creation
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Hello,

I'm new to this forum (and forum posting in general). If I'm doing something wrong / saying something wrong, I apologies please note it to me.

Passionnément (2000) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119866/) is an obscure French movie with Charlotte Gainsbourg and Bruno Nuytten (one of the most successful French cinematographers) as a director and writer. This is one of three films directed by him and one of which is Camille Claudel (1998) - well received and a great watch

There seems to be one way to view the movie and it's to buy the DVD from French amazon, which I purchased. It looks to be produced and distributed by Studio Canal with DVD being released in oct 2009 (I think). Googling quickly just now, there is a pirate rip uploaded to a Russian website which looks identical to my version.

I'm interested in producing French and English subtitles, as I'm not French-speaking. DVD offers only French dubbing and no subtitles.

Vanan services gave me a quote of 1020USD (discount from 1176USD just cus they're cool Big Grin ) for production of French and English captioning. Pricing is reasonable for professional captioning and matches other providers of this service, but is not really reasonable for my personal viewing.

Trying out an AI captioning service produce low quality subtitles at a fraction of the price. A French random discord user reviewed them and said some lines are nonsense.

I'm hoping there is interest in this film and some of you can guide me on how to accomplish producing the subtitles and sharing them. Again, apologies if I'm posting this in a wrong forum section.

Thank you
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I tried to achieve something like this with AI tools. It's not really feasible frankly, having a person do it is really the only way to get usable results.

Do you have a college near you? Try your luck and see if there's a someone there who would be willing to do it for a few hundred bucks.
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(2024-07-09, 10:03 PM)stwd4nder2 Wrote: I tried to achieve something like this with AI tools. It's not really feasible frankly, having a person do it is really the only way to get usable results.

Do you have a college near you? Try your luck and see if there's a someone there who would be willing to do it for a few hundred bucks.

I did try to find a French speaker in cinema / film buff discords interested, but I only found one guy and he says he's busy and ghosts my messages sometimes.

I'm not sure what type of college and at what level the students will be with their French and how reliable their work can be (Eastern Europe btw). I think I'll try searching for people online, thanks for suggestion. Did you end up finding someone for your project?
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$1000 is really steep.
if you searched really hard for a good service/individual i'm sure you could get at worse half that price and at best for something reasonable

there's some really private communities on the internet that do translations for extremely niche films like karagarga but you have to be in the know and stuff, i don't really know much about that but it could be a possible route. a translation could also already exist but it could be inaccessible for the avarage person

alternatively i think the best path you could go down is getting a french transcription (prefferably as a really rough barely synced .srt) and then doing the translation/syncing yourself with deepl/google translate as a fallback. then you could get that proofread and corrected by a french/english speaker, and those corrected parts re-synced by yourself. that way you're doing a lot of the grunt work (probably something like 70-80% of it minus the transcription) and people could be possibly be more willing to help out.

i asked around somewhere if subtitles already exist, but it'll take a short while for a reply and i don't have my hopes up
either way, good luck with the translation and if you ever do get a hold of subtitles either in french or a translation, make sure to open it to opensubtitles.org for everyone!

if subtitles in the original language exist and they're fairly accurate, i think pretty much anyone can do a decent translation with enough effort, even if they don't know the language.
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(2024-07-16, 10:25 PM)kiyoakiwah Wrote: i asked around somewhere if subtitles already exist, but it'll take a short while for a reply and i don't have my hopes up

nope
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(2024-07-17, 07:33 PM)kiyoakiwah Wrote:
(2024-07-16, 10:25 PM)kiyoakiwah Wrote: i asked around somewhere if subtitles already exist, but it'll take a short while for a reply and i don't have my hopes up

nope

Yeah, thanks anyways man. Also thank you for reminding me private trackers exists lol -- that is certainly a venue I will try exploring.

Something I forgot to mention -- Somewhat good thing with these captions is that they seem to be synced somewhat well. So it is possibly a bit easier task and might not require someone experienced specifically in subtitle work.
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subtitle edit is very easy to use, even someone unexperienced could do a basic transcription/translation. Then you could go in and do the more advanced stuff like formatting.

Side note, have you considered trying to crowdsource the cost of a professional transcription? You might be able to raise a bit if you post in the right places.
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