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  REGRADE | BD and UHD to U Matic Color |German| Discussion
Posted by: Stamper - 2021-01-01, 09:06 AM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases - Replies (13)

So I just stumbled upon info on this regrade of The Terminator that seems to be 200% spots on.

This is an Alternative Regrade from a U Matic copy.

Here's information about this U Matic trend that is exclusively german as far as I know:

U-Matic came onto the market around 1972 and was used professionally by TV stations (e.g. also replaced the 16mm film, reporting, documentaries). In contrast to the later VHS / Betamax, U-Matic offered the better picture, but could not establish itself in the home video sector. U-Matic was still in daily use somewhere up until 2002.

When VHS / Betamax found its way onto the German market at the end of the 1970s, pirate copiers became active, every current cinema film (often a week before the cinema release), and tons of older film titles were copied using U-Matic machines. As a rule, the films were split into 2x60 min. U-Matic tapes.

This resulted in VHS mother tapes, that were a 1: 1 copy without any significant loss of quality. Copies of these original tapes were brought into households nationwide. Avarice Mentality already existed back then, so the first copies of the VHS mother tape were almost exclusively bought by pure film collectors (at 30-70 DM).

The bulk of other copies came from these copies on VHS / Betamax / Video 2000, i.e. with further decreasing picture quality, film titles flooded German households. Copies were sold / lent out and copied again at home for friends / relatives.

Anyone who still has the original 1: 1 copies knows that their quality, especially the original cinema format to be admired here (sometimes slightly zoomed in), was always better in terms of the picture than that of later original rental and purchase tapes from video stores .

It seems that in many cases, U Matic tapes are the only pristine preservations left of the original colors of films that are completely modified on home-video, like The Good The Bad & The Ugly, Alien or The Terminator.

There are dozens of Regrades for Terminator (1984) and the author of this U Matic regrade Der Rabe shows two other alternatives here as a comparison.


Blu ray - Remastered - Original Screenshot:
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der rabe - Regrade from one of the last "U Matic cinema copies":
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3Li - Hybrid Color Restoration:
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DonaldFaQ - Regrade:
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Blu ray - Remastered - Original Screenshot:
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der rabe - Regrade from one of the last "U Matic cinema copies":
[Image: term506umatic9mkbt.png]

DonaldFaQ - Regrade:
[Image: term506donaldonjl2.jpg]

Blu ray - Remastered - Original Screenshot:
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der rabe - Regrade from one of the last "U Matic cinema copies":
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Blu ray - Remastered - Original Screenshot:
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der rabe - Regrade from one of the last "U Matic cinema copies":
[Image: term505umaticncjeu.png]

Blu ray - Remastered - Original Screenshot:
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der rabe - Regrade from one of the last "U Matic cinema copies":
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Blu ray - Remastered - Original Screenshot:
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der rabe - Regrade from one of the last "U Matic cinema copies":
[Image: term507umatic8zjxv.png]




Media - Info:

Vollständiger Name                      : I:\Terminator 1 - USA 1984 - U Matic Color Regrade - 1080p.mkv
Format                                  : Matroska
Format-Version                          : Version 4
Dateigröße                              : 13,7 GiB
Dauer                                    : 1 h 47 min
Gesamte Bitrate                          : 18,3 Mb/s
Kodierungs-Datum                        : UTC 2020-12-27 10:14:48
Kodierendes Programm                    : mkvmerge v6.7.0 ('Back to the Ground') 32bit built on Jan  8 2014 15:03:17
verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek            : libebml v1.3.0 + libmatroska v1.4.1

Video
ID                                      : 1
Format                                  : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format-Profil                            : High@L4.1
Format-Einstellungen                    : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format-Einstellungen für CABAC          : Ja
Format-Einstellungen für RefFrames      : 4 frames
Codec-ID                                : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Dauer                                    : 1 h 47 min
Bitrate                                  : 17,4 Mb/s
Breite                                  : 1 920 Pixel
Höhe                                    : 1 080 Pixel
Bildseitenverhältnis                    : 16:9
Modus der Bildwiederholungsrate          : konstant
Bildwiederholungsrate                    : 23,976 (24000/1001) FPS
ColorSpace                              : YUV
ChromaSubsampling/String                : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String                          : 8 bits
Scantyp                                  : progressiv
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                      : 0.350
Stream-Größe                            : 13,0 GiB (95%)
verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek            : x264 core 159 r2991 1771b55
Kodierungseinstellungen                  : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=18 / lookahead_threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=4 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=119 / keyint_min=11 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=18.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Default                                  : Ja
Forced                                  : Nein
colour_range                            : Limited
transfer_characteristics                : BT.709
matrix_coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                      : 2
Format                                  : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Format_Commercial_IfAny                  : Dolby Digital
Codec-ID                                : A_AC3
Dauer                                    : 1 h 47 min
Bitraten-Modus                          : konstant
Bitrate                                  : 512 kb/s
Kanäle                                  : 6 Kanäle
ChannelLayout                            : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Samplingrate                            : 48,0 kHz
Bildwiederholungsrate                    : 31,250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Video Verzögerung                        : -5 ms
Stream-Größe                            : 392 MiB (3%)
Titel                                    : 5.1 German
Sprache                                  : Deutsch
ServiceKind/String                      : Complete Main
Default                                  : Ja
Forced                                  : Nein

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  Hello!
Posted by: Nicky90 - 2020-12-31, 08:48 PM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (1)

Hello everyone!

I'm nicky90. I am passionate about cinema in its originality.

Thanks for all the site content and interesting discussions.

Thanks.

Best regards.

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  Man Of Steel
Posted by: interaser - 2020-12-31, 06:58 PM - Forum: Movies, TV shows and other - Replies (5)

Was searching for the best possible version of Man Of Steel

Just an example of the difference I have noticed between 4K HDR and Blu-ray SDR

https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/9611

I feel like 4K HDR is a downgrade comparable to Blu-ray SDR

What do you think?

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  Do You Love Me?
Posted by: lionmane - 2020-12-30, 06:57 PM - Forum: Everything else... - Replies (11)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn3KWM1kuAw

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  Yojimbo (1961) - Criterion Mono Blu-Ray synced to Toho Blu-Ray
Posted by: spaceboy710 - 2020-12-30, 08:25 AM - Forum: Released - Replies (9)

Yojimbo (1961)
Criterion 48/24 FLAC synced to Toho Blu-Ray

Per Moshrom
"...the Criterion mono track, which has been restored surprisingly well -- the Toho mono mix has so much tape noise that it sounds like it's raining in every scene"

I thiiiiink he meant the Criterion Blu-ray. I haven't heard either Criterion DVD releases so I can't vouch for them.

PM if interested!

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  Somewhere in Time - DVD audio synced to Blu-ray
Posted by: spaceboy710 - 2020-12-30, 12:13 AM - Forum: Released - No Replies

Somewhere in Time (1980)
NTSC DVD Audio (not sure which edition. likely the Special Edition)
2.0 mono
Synced to the Region 1 Blu-ray

The Blu-ray's audio is muffled by noise reduction. The DVD is considerably better.

PM me if interested

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  Hello from lockdown
Posted by: gilhodges - 2020-12-28, 07:01 PM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (3)

Hello from lock down Los Angeles. I am fairly new to the world of Fan Edits/Fan Restorations etc. Though I have been collecting concert audio and video recordings for MANY years. Some of the reasons I collect those apply to the edits found here. I collect concerts because A) I like the music and B) See A. It all started with wanting copies of the shows I attended. Progressed to recording shows myself then trading and on and on.  People ask why do you have some 800 Springsteen recordings? I look at each show as history. One show is not the same as the next , something small happens to make that show unique. Plus I am what is called a "completeist"(sp?). Any way what I think applies here is that fans TRUE fans when they see something they can maybe improve on do so and in doing so, do (so many do's) a so much better job than the studios. Because they do it form a fans view rather than a marketing view . This is what I appreciate from the editors. All the work and effort put in to the project. And these days with the lock downs, especially here in California. Without being able to go to theatres the edits make time go by so much more enjoyable. So in advance I would like to thank all the editors for their work and efforts. A few of my favorite editors are Dr. Saperstein, Mainiac, TM2YC and MBTM. But I have enjoyed all the edits from everyone that I have watched.

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  Dropping a shout out
Posted by: Zhanaie - 2020-12-28, 03:54 AM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (1)

Hey all.

Just joined and sending warm shout out to all.
Hope to seeing you all around.

Take care and stay stay.  Smile

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  Evil Dead II LD Track Synced To UHD BR
Posted by: brad86 - 2020-12-27, 12:56 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (2)

I obtained the track elsewhere, that has been synced to the 25th Aniv' BR, but I can't seem to sync it myself to the recent UHD release.
Trimming and matching the track is fine for a few minutes, but then goes out of sync again.

Anyone with the right software tools and know-how fancy taking up the task ?

Shoot me a message if you need the track.

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  De-logoing
Posted by: FrankT - 2020-12-26, 03:29 PM - Forum: Audio and video editing - Replies (9)

So I'm a complete dunce when it comes to these things... say I have a DOG that shows up in the corner, like this:

[Image: QfnDfO9.png]

What's the best way to get rid of it?

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