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  [Canceled] Zodiac Theatrical Cut (Quick Project)
Posted by: PDB - 2019-12-04, 08:02 PM - Forum: Archived projects - Replies (13)

This is finished here:

https://fanrestore.com/editpost.php?pid=85895

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Zodiac Theatrical Cut (Quick Project v1.0)

Project Info

So you are asking yourself why recreate the TC of Zodiac? Well the project's genesis started a few years ago when I bought a box of Cinema DTS discs. Most of the movies were junk but included in the pack were the discs for Zodiac and Zodiac just happens to be my favorite Fincher movie.

With the discs in hand, I wanted to sync the tracks to the BD so I could hear the far field mix. That was until I remembered the BD is the Director's Cut (DC) and contains several minutes of additional scenes, scene extensions and a few alternative shots.

I debated if I should just patch the Cinema DTS with the BD until I came to the realization that it would be nice to have the TC back in HD form. Re-create what is not available.

So this project recreates the TC by cutting the BD down to the DVD which contains the TC cut. Most of the cuts are covered here:

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=4878

But not covered in that link is the fact the DC has more frames for certain shots, one subtitle that I had to matte into the HD footage from the DVD and two brief shots I needed to upscaled, one that had different timing than the DC and one wholly unique shot from the TC. The credits of the DC are also formatted differently when compared to the TC DVD. So I used the DVD credits.

The final master was color corrected to match the DVD's look which is greener when compared to the BD's redder cast.

On the audio side besides the Cinema DTS, I included the DD 5.1 from the DVD

Video:
This project attempts to create the theatrical cut (TC) of Zodiac by cutting down the DC BD to match the TC DVD. The end project is color corrected to resemble more of the look of the DVD.

Audio:
1. DTS-HD MA 5.1 (from the Cinema DTS Discs)
2. Dolby Digital 5.1 (from the US CE DVD)

Subs:
1. English (from the US DVD)

Sync::
This project is synced to the US DVD

Pics
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Collaborators and Thanks (In order of help):
SpaceBlackKnight: for the HD TC parts

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  Fixing lip sync issues on a Panasonic Plasma
Posted by: captainsolo - 2019-12-03, 08:42 PM - Forum: General technical discussions - Replies (6)

So I picked up a beautiful ST60 Panasonic plasma a few months ago and have been breaking it in gently and finally getting to see the beauty of a higher end plasma panel.
But what I have noticed is a lip sync audio issue where when watching a movie the sync seems to go off after about the half way point and it becomes really obvious for a scene or two then suddenly seems to go back in sync at some later point. Other time sit is off sync for the whole feature.

I've been using my PS3 for BD playback through my Onkyo TX-nr626 receiver via HDMI. I was using HDMI input 1. I've never had to use any offset values as I'm usually running into an HDCRT for my display and using external speakers which has no audio sync issues whatsoever. I'm still using the same receiver and external speakers and if I switch back to the HDCRT there are no sync issues at all.

So far this is killing my enthusiasm for an otherwise fantastic unit. I have every additional feature disabled including all motion smoothing and this isn't connected to any online functionality. I used the DNice recommended settings and am only using this for Blu-ray playback via HDMI.

Using the ARC input makes no difference. I still see the sync go off and sometimes only for a single scene at a time. This is really infuriating.
This is apparently an issue that many owners of this particular tv had and Panasonic did a fix in one of their older firmwares. However this TV seems to be fully updated. No matter what I do the sync goes off in certain instances and I don't think putting a setting in my receiver would help because it is only intermittent in certain scenes nor can I figure out exactly how much it goes off sync for.

I'm wondering if an hdmi splitter might help so that I could go straight to the tv and then send the audio to the receiver.

I've tried every variant of CEC and ARC and other players to try and get the sync right but nothing seems to work. The only thing that gets perfect sync is disabling 1080/24p or playing Standard def materials. I've even tried the av sync and lip sync in my onkyo receiver and tried to adjust audio delay. I even used the same film on two different players simultaneously to get the tv audio and receiver audio to sync but even that didn't work.

Has anyone ever been able to get the sync right on 2013 Panasonic plasma models? This is driving me nuts!

I’ve tried fiddling with it again and going back and forth in my receiver settings 10ms at a time. It starts to get better around 60ms delay, very good at around 150 and seems perfect at 200ms delay. Thankfully it seems I can leave this and it won’t affect extras and the like.

I just wish there was a way to get this nailed down and be exactly on point. I had heard of sync problems being frustrating before by until now it hasn’t hit me fully that it’s still all over the place in quality control.

Perhaps I was spoiled with my hdcrt...

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  Audio Restoration - Odd Looking File
Posted by: alleycat - 2019-12-03, 06:06 PM - Forum: Audio and video editing - Replies (2)

Hi All,

I'm syncing up a commentary track to a blu ray and the volume is very low on it so I was just going to normalise it in sound forge. 

However when looking at it, the audio goes further below the middle line than it goes above the middle line, see below:

https://www.mediafire.com/view/jzuqo1s3j...s.PNG/file

Not sure what causes this and if anything should be done to correct it? After normalising it looks like this:

https://www.mediafire.com/view/2dn2rrlck...p.PNG/file

It sounds a lot better than it was so I could just go with it. Any other suggestions? I didn't capture the LD myself.

Thanks

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  Paris, Texas (1984) LD PCM
Posted by: SpookyDollhouse - 2019-12-01, 11:50 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (19)

I'm looking for the Paris, Texas LD audio. I'd like to sync it to the upcoming 4k restored release, which I will gladly in turn make available for anyone who wants it.

Thanks for your help!

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  The Keep (1983) LaserDisc PCM
Posted by: HippieDalek - 2019-11-28, 03:07 PM - Forum: Released - Replies (5)

EDIT : Now bit-perfect certified! 

I was talking to another user here about Chewtobacca's preservation of The Keep. During the discussion he sent me the following quote from Chewtobacca

"...What we really need is the PCM from the LaserDisc..."

At the time I had my laserdisc player plugged in to my PC to capture PCM audio for my Highlander 2 preservation, so I offered to have a go with my Keep laserdisc too. 

I can't guarantee that it's bit perfect as I'm still struggling to pass bronan's DTS CD test, but since I'm already hosting it for another user here I thought I'd at least post about it and make it available to anyone else who is interested. 

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It's from the US Widescreen release (https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/23041/LV-...S/Keep-The) and side two also features the audio for the following trailers:

  • Barbarella
  • War of the Worlds
  • When Worlds Collide
  • I Married a Monster from Outer Space

If anyone is interested please feel free to PM. If I can ever guarantee I'm getting bit perfect rips I'll go through the rest of my LD collection to see if there's anything else worth preserving.

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  Citizen Kane Image LD Audio
Posted by: FrankT - 2019-11-25, 01:28 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - No Replies

According to this, the analogue audio on the Image LaserDisc version of Citizen Kane sounds better. Is there anyone who can hook us up with that track and sync it to the Blu-ray?

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  Shaolin Soccer Original DUB Edition
Posted by: JackReacher - 2019-11-24, 12:28 AM - Forum: In progress - Replies (1)

The idea is to render the english DVD using BD footage since the BD is redubbed with even more cuts. I started compiling a script of footage from the BDs of both the US cut and the Chinese cut (for the missing scenes). Since the DVD cut has less missing scenes than the US BD, I need to use the english audio track from one of the DVDs. This DVD seems to be the only one with English DTS audio:

R2 Holland - World Wide Cinema

DISC TWO
* The Film - Director's Cut
"Making Of" featurette
"Special Effects" featurette
Outtakes
Subtitles: Dutch
Aspect Ratio:1.85:1
Picture Format:Anamorphic
TV System: PAL
Soundtrack(s):Cantonese DTS 5.1
Cantonese Dolby Digital 5.1
English DTS 5.1
English Dolby Digital 5.1
English Dolby Digital 2.0
French Dolby Digital 2.0
Case type:Keep Case


Now I'm not sure if the DTS track is better. I just thought I'd ask here if anyone knew which one is superior or if they had something superior. Yes the Director's Cut is far superior, this project is for those who enjoyed the english dub back in the day  Big Grin

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  Hotmail problems
Posted by: Feallan - 2019-11-23, 01:52 PM - Forum: Announcements - Replies (6)

I've been getting a number of failed e-mail deliveries from Fanres to Hotmail (and also a couple Protonmail) inboxes in the past two days. There doesn't seem to be an issue with other mail providers, so if you haven't been receiving e-mail notifications, you could try using another address, while I wait for my host to respond about this issue.

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  Scarface (1983) 4.0 original mix
Posted by: Stamper - 2019-11-22, 08:28 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (24)

Hi guys,

I'm currently trying to gather all mixes of Scarface 83 that aren't on the new 4K or Blu-ray for resyncs.

The Blu-ray have the original Dolby Surround 2.0 but it appears that this original mix was released in foreign countries in 4.0 discrete which would make it the best version of the original mix out there.

It's available in the following countries:

R2 Denmark - Universal Pictures
Collector's Edition
TV System: PAL
Soundtrack(s):English Dolby Digital 4.0
German Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono
Case type:Keep Case

R2 Holland - Universal Pictures
Collector's Edition
TV System: PAL
Soundtrack(s):English Dolby Digital 4.0
Case type:Keep Case

R2 France - Columbia Tristar Home Entertainment
Collector's Edition
TV System: PAL
Soundtrack(s):English Dolby Digital 4.0
French Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono

R2 Italy - Universal Pictures
TV System: PAL
Soundtrack(s):English Dolby Digital 4.0
Italian Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono
Case type:Keep Case

R2 United Kingdom - Universal Pictures
Collector's Edition
TV System: PAL
Soundtrack(s):English Dolby Digital 4.0
German Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono

R4 Australia - Columbia Tristar Home Entertainment
Collector's Edition
TV System: PAL
Soundtrack(s):English Dolby Digital 4.0
German Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono

If you own one of these I would be happy with an extraction of the 4.0 track for preservation Smile

THX

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  [Canceled] The Abyss Open Matte and Regrade
Posted by: PDB - 2019-11-21, 08:15 PM - Forum: Archived projects - Replies (77)

Its pretty clear random.next can do a much better job than I can so I'm canceling this project.

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The Abyss SE Open Matte (New HDTV Colors Regrade v1.0A)
The Abyss TC Open Matte (New HDTV Colors Regrade v1.0B)

Project Info:

This project attempts to create the best open matte version of The Abyss by combining the parts from 2 separate HDTV broadcasts (no logo cap and AXN for fill). It's a project similar to my Top Gun, Fight Club and Quantum Of Solace projects.

Each video file has the normal range of issues: compression artifacts, smeared grain, missing frames, etc that will be cleaned up. There might be a chance of dirt clean up but I haven't decided yet.

Originally this project was going to use a color regrade that I had come up with for my upscale of the 4:3 OM DVD but when comparing that grade to the colors from the "new" HD master, they were close enough that I decided to just use the "new" HD's colors.

Test Run
Old HDTV Colors\New HDTV Colors
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Finally, spoRv provided a copy of his YAO subs so you can watch the project in 1.77 open matte or theatrical 2.35 with a tiny bit of crop varying per shot. Once again the opening 20th Century logo be over cropped incorrectly but the rest is fine.

Video:
A combination of 2 HDTV broadcast merged together to create the best version with compression artifacts minimized and other clean up measures preformed.

Audio: (Version A)
1. PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround (from the SE LD)
2. DTS-ES 6.1 (from the Chinese DVD)

(Version B)
1. PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround (from the TC LD)
2. PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround (cut down from the SE LD)
3. Dolby Digital 5.1 (from the HDTV Broadcast)

Subs:
1. English (from the US DVD)
2. spoRv's YAO subs to watch the 1.77 open matte video in 2.35 mode (Version A only)

Pics

Temp/WIP Pics

Collaborators and Thanks (In order of help):
Chewtobacca: for audio help
X5gb: for material help

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