The 1999 DVD contains what should be the original 70mm/35mm mixes, in addition to including an isolated score.

There is, however, one issue. The 5.1/2.0 have an error in the credits where a bit of music from later is duplicated earlier. Ideally the 5.1 would be patched with the 2007 remix, (where the music here is correct,) and the 2.0 patched with the isolated score. But I do not currently have access to that remix, and getting the score patched in just right is a bit outside my area of expertise. If someone else here wants to take a crack at it, feel free. Otherwise, these are still at the very list similar to the original mixes, and lack the revisions from later mixes.

Note: I didn't really sync them, because they already seem to match up without any adjustments. Hard to be sure though, as the remixes are all slightly out-of-sync, and trying to match lipflaps of puppets doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Hi everyone

I am about to compare the audio tracks for Ace in the Hole (1951) and I currently have the audio from the Criterion Blu-Ray, the Eureka! Blu-Ray, and the Criterion DVD.

I would greatly appreciate if anyone could share with me any other audio tracks they have, e.g. the one from the old Paramount DVD.

Thanks

Discovered this place while searching for Open Matte/IMAX versions of Harry Potter.

Just a newb with some interest. Nice to meet you all.

Released in 1973, Serpico's original sound mix was naturally mono.

Kino, the self-proclaimed best label in the world, naturally once again offered a split-L/R-stereo mix on their new UHD, in addition to a 5.1 remix . After phase-inverting their R-channel and downmixing to 1.0:


To source a genuine mono, I've examined these previous BDs:

• 2010 FR/DE/ES StudioCanal BD
  
• 2014 UK Eureka MoC BD
  
• 2020 FR/DE StudioCanal remastered BD (SC UHD released at the same time presumably features the same tracks)
  

Moshrom/Blah-ray has previously concluded that the Criterion BD's mono sounded the best: https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/2016/09/th...-1962.html

I've examined Kino UHD's 2.0. It's a split-L/R-stereo (best label in the world huh). After inverting the R-channel and downmixing to 1.0, the result looks busy as hell instead of a flat-line:



Inputs:

• Criterion mono: PCM, 1.0 mono, 1152 kbps, 48 kHz, 24-bit
  
• Criterion commentary: AC-3, 1.0 mono, 192 kbps, 48 kHz
  

• Criterion mono: FLAC, 1.0 mono, 608 kbps, 48 kHz, 24-bit
  
• Criterion commentary: FLAC, 1.0 mono, 233 kbps, 48 kHz, 16-bit
  

• Kino UHD is presented in 24 fps, while Criterion BD is 23.976 fps as usual. I've sped up both tracks from Criterion with SoX.
  
• Kino UHD and the Criterion BD are frame-accurate. The only difference is Criterion having an extra 715 frames at the beginning. At 24 fps, this translates to a delay of -29792ms.
  
• Kino UHD opens with a silent OG United Artist logo. Criterion BD opens with a new UA-MGM logo, then the MGM lion. I've trimmed the sound in both parts, and on both the film's audio and the commentary.
  
• Fortunately on the commentary, Frankenheimer doesn't start talking until the film starts. So nothing is lost by trimming the extra 29792ms. Additionally, he finishes just as the film ends.
  

Moshrom/Blah-ray previously compared Criterion DVD, Optimum DVD, and StudioCanal BD. The SC BD was the winner. https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/2018/03/la...-1954.html

I've just ripped my Criterion BD from the Essential Fellini boxset. Here's its spectrogram matching Moshrom's settings (not level-matched to previous BD/DVD but likely doesn't matter given how obviously filtered it is):


Moshrom's spectrogram of the SC BD:


Four-way comparison: https://slow.pics/c/2ABxGJwi

As usual, the Criterion BD features additional filtering in both the high and low frequencies.

Does anyone have the SC BD's mono track (preferably with video for an easier sync)? If not, I can grab a used copy and attempt syncing, but it may be a long time before it gets to me.

Thanks!

Just found out about this website, and I must say I have the utmost respect for those who keep old media both available and in good quality.

https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/12120/PIL...-the-Game)
Also requesting VHS, BFI PAL DVD format for the audio or any PAL DVD you could find. So I could analyze the audio.
Quite a rare LD overall. So if anyone has or can capture the audio. I will gladly sync and analyze the audio.

OR
https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/00934/CC1...al-Edition
CC LD, any audio option is fine.

Regards

Sertoli previously synced the IVC LD & Svensk Filmindustri DVD to the 2018 Criterion BD (part of the Ingmar Bergman's Cinema boxset). Since he doesn't appear to be active around here anymore, I've taken the liberty to re-time his syncs to the new BFI UHD. I've also thrown in Criterion's commentary by Bergman expert Peter Cowie as a bonus. (A great commentary IMO. It definitely helped me appreciate the film more after a perplexing first watch years ago.)

Audio comparison:

• Blah-ray's coverage: https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/2017/03/th...-1957.html
  
• IVC LD sounds the best overall.
  
• Svensk Filmindustri DVD is more detailed in a few places, but more muffled in others. It should make an interesting alternative track.
  

• David M. @ Fidelity in Motion encoded the BFI release.
  
• BFI is presented in (a conservatively-graded) Dolby Vision, while Criterion UHD is presented in SDR. Here's BFI's HDR grading, plotted from my own disc (blue line tracks per-shot MaxCLL; purple line tracks per-shot MaxFALL):
  
  

• IVC LD originally sourced by: BDgeek / alinskey
  
• IVC LD originally ripped by: alinskey
  
• IVC LD & Swedish DVD originally synced to Criterion BD by: sertoli
  
• sertoli's syncs shared with me by: stwd4nder2
  
• [BONUS] Criterion commentary ripped & synced by: axeyou
  

• IVC LD: FLAC, 2.0 mono, 718 kbps, 44.1 kHz, 16 bits
  
• Swedish DVD: FLAC, 1.0 mono, 339 kbps, 48 kHz, 16 bits
  
• Criterion Commentary: AC-3, 1.0 mono, 192 kbps, 48 kHz
  

• IVC LD: FLAC, 2.0 mono, 715 kbps, 44.1 kHz, 16 bits
  
• Swedish DVD: FLAC, 1.0 mono, 336 kbps, 48 kHz, 16 bits
  
• Criterion Commentary: FLAC, 1.0 mono, 249 kbps, 48 kHz, 16 bits
  

• BFI UHD is presented in 24 fps, while Criterion BD is 23.976 fps as usual. I've sped up all three tracks with SoX.
  
• BFI UHD and the 2018 Criterion boxset BD are frame-wise identical. The only difference is Criterion having an extra 865 frames at the beginning. At 24 fps, this translates to a delay of -36042ms.
  
• When remuxing, the LD and DVD tracks I'm sharing need this -36042ms delay. However, the Criterion commentary track complicates things, as Peter Cowie starts introducing himself at an untimely ~33 seconds. So, if you are interested in the commentary, apply a positive 36042ms delay to the BFI UHD's video, audio, subtitle, and chapters instead.
  
• Alternatively, apply a +5000ms delay to BFI's video & associated tracks, and a -31042ms to the LD, DVD, and commentary tracks. See comment below: I've re-synced the commentary to perfectly match BFI UHD.
  
• I've also included SRTs from both the 2018 Criterion BD (re-synced to BFI) and BFI UHD. Their translations are a little bit different, e.g. BFI refers to Death as "the Devil" in a few but not all instances. I don't speak Swedish to be able to determine which one is more accurate.
  

Hello there,

Just found this great forum while looking for the new Akira Kurosawa UHD remux by "xwmario".
Im gonna check if there is some magic for the Sergio Leone audio's...

See ya