(2018-11-09, 06:28 PM)MrBrown Wrote: What about the image DVD mono?

If someone want to make it international, I could provide the German DVD mono. (slightly censored cut, but no dialogue missing)

Also the 2.0 audio in french and english from the first French DVD release... (TF1)

I am no one able to sync anything, just could help with the said audio tracks straight from the DVDs...

(2018-11-09, 09:22 PM)Bigrob Wrote: I have the Image DVD if you need that ripped

Also, there was a French or German DVD released a while back in the 1.66:1 ratio that was taken from a print

If I recall and please correct me if I'm wrong, the image disc is also a 2.1 (Dolby Digital) but not the same as the PCM 2.1 that appeared on the tehparadox? It is an unique mix. If so, I think the image soundtrack should be included, so I'm going to add it to the list.

I have no problem making this an international disc by including the German and French mono soundtrack if you can provide them MrBrown. I do have the German DVD in question as Tservo gave it to me years ago when I had in mind to use that as a color guide before ultimately rejecting it.

Honestly, I've never had to sync a non-English soundtrack before since every-time I asked for non-english tracks for my projects, no one has provided any. So this is a good opportunity for me. I normally sync via waveform instead of frame matching so I might need help from some of the crew here but I think I can get it done.

(2018-11-09, 06:47 PM)LucasGodzilla Wrote: I think the two main definites here are the original laserdisc mono track along with the hybrid stereo track. Also, if it's any help, I have access to a rip of a Japanese laserdisc of the movie. I doubt it's any better if not worse than the laserdisc rip you have, but I think it's at least worth a peek. Just shoot me a PM if you're interested.

Unless you think that there is something interesting/unique about or it just sounds better, I think I'm good. Thank you for the offer.

(2018-11-11, 04:49 AM)Dek Rollins Wrote:

(2018-11-10, 10:41 AM)Turisu Wrote: Dek Rollins regrade was apparently based on 35mm sources: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Te...e/id/54412

I'd be very interested to know how this compares to the sources you have as it's currently my go-to version of the movie.

Mine was a single pass with some scene specific changes, and I would assume PDB is going shot to shot with this. Either way, this will be great to compare with mine.

EDIT: As far as feedback on this proposal, I think it would be better to include the mono tracks as 1.0, since AFAIK it doesn't actually make a difference. The space saved would be small, but worth it IMO.

Yeah, I would like to point out I'm not trying to steal thunder from Dek. This project, if I complete it, will most likely stay here on fanres for the time being and not appear on the OT, BT or organ. I don't see it as competition but two different ways to approach the same thing.

It will be a frame by frame (and/or shot by shot) regrade to the tape with additional tweaking from the 35mm frames.

You know I had that thought of encoding 1.0 for the mono soundtracks. I ultimately decided not to because if you have a 5.1+ setup that means the soundtrack plays solely though your center channel, which is not always the most dynamic speaker. Encoding it in 2.0 means it plays through the mains which is more appealing. I might encode in DTS-HD MA to save space.

I can supply Italian tracks (AC-3 2.0 and 5.1, and DTS 5.1, all from DVD); a "mere" 140MB for the stereo track should not be a big waste of space...

(2018-11-12, 07:30 PM)spoRv Wrote: I can supply Italian tracks (AC-3 2.0 and 5.1, and DTS 5.1, all from DVD); a "mere" 140MB for the stereo track should not be a big waste of space...

I'll take the Italian 2.0 unless it's a mixdown. Is it attached to some sort of video?

I assume the others are based on the 5.1 remix? I see no reason to have any of the 5.1 remixes unless someone fixed the gun shots. I know there was a project to do so at one point...

And Ronster was doing a stereo remix, I PM'ed him but have yet to get a response.

(2018-11-12, 07:35 PM)Stamper Wrote: I can supply the french DVD of the early master with both mono tracks ripped (separate ac3 files + video for sync purposes)
Also I have the Image disc with the 2.1 mono.
Paradox 2.1 if I remember correctly (lost the audio a while back in a disc crash) was the image LD mono coupled with the .1 from the remix. It may have problems as the remix is not exactly in sync with the mono track in all the parts with music like the Tech Noir scene.

Thanks Stamper.

That was my understanding of the custom 2.1 also. I'll look at the Tech Noir scene.

I don’t know if it’s interesting or not, but the Amazon version has more content from all sides than BD
If it is useful, I will gladly provide it.

(2018-11-12, 08:22 PM)PDB Wrote: I'll take the Italian 2.0 unless it's a mixdown. Is it attached to some sort of video?

Listening to it, it seems not a mixdown - indeed, it sounds quite nearly my dreadful (thanks to laserrot ) PAL laserdisc - full of noise and crackles, not completely deleted by Audacity...
I have the DVD video, and could convert to anything you like - with a bitrate like 500kpbs, just to have a video to sync with.
And, Amazon video is interesting IMHO!

(2018-11-12, 08:34 PM)maksnew Wrote: I don’t know if it’s interesting or not, but the Amazon version has more content from all sides than BD
If it is useful, I will gladly provide it.

I appreciate you offering. The final project will be 1.85 but let me think it over. Thanks again.

(2018-11-12, 09:04 PM)spoRv Wrote:

(2018-11-12, 08:22 PM)PDB Wrote: I'll take the Italian 2.0 unless it's a mixdown. Is it attached to some sort of video?

Listening to it, it seems not a mixdown - indeed, it sounds quite nearly my dreadful (thanks to laserrot ) PAL laserdisc - full of noise and crackles, not completely deleted by Audacity...
I have the DVD video, and could convert to anything you like - with a bitrate like 500kpbs, just to have a video to sync with.
And, Amazon video is interesting IMHO!

Ah well crappy mono is still proabbly better then the 5.1 gunshots .

Send me the Italian then when you can. A simple IVTC'd mp4, AVI, etc will do. Whatever is easiest for you spoRv. Thanks.

Ok got the MGM DVD mono, the "fake stereo" and the remixed 2.1.

Need the Image, German, French and Italian

Cool project PDB!

The JP LD LucasGodzilla referred to earlier in the thread is PILF-1297 if anyone is interested.

(2018-11-13, 05:28 PM)zoidberg Wrote: Cool project PDB!

The JP LD LucasGodzilla referred to earlier in the thread is PILF-1297 if anyone is interested.

Thanks for the capture!

(2018-11-13, 05:51 PM)PDB Wrote:

(2018-11-13, 05:28 PM)zoidberg Wrote: Cool project PDB!

The JP LD LucasGodzilla referred to earlier in the thread is PILF-1297 if anyone is interested.

Thanks for the capture!

Wait? What? Have to check if that's the LD I have... In two weeks... Hope I do not forget...