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Looking for the "right" Terminator 2 color grading...
#61
IIRC the SQZ laserdisc was created from a print which omitted the colour correction gels from the timing pass, but anything filmed with lighting gels would still be present (future war etc). Still not sure this curiosity got onto the shelves. BTW the mono sample was great! A true mono with everything folded to the single channel, and yet it still sounded awesome.
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(2017-01-09, 10:15 PM)zoidberg Wrote: IIRC the SQZ laserdisc was created from a print which omitted the colour correction gels from the timing pass, but anything filmed with lighting gels would still be present (future war etc). Still not sure this curiosity got onto the shelves. BTW the mono sample was great! A true mono with everything folded to the single channel, and yet it still sounded awesome.

Really, that's fascinating. Maybe an odd IP print?
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(2017-01-09, 11:32 PM)PDB Wrote:
(2017-01-09, 10:15 PM)zoidberg Wrote: IIRC the SQZ laserdisc was created from a print which omitted the colour correction gels from the timing pass, but anything filmed with lighting gels would still be present (future war etc). Still not sure this curiosity got onto the shelves. BTW the mono sample was great! A true mono with everything folded to the single channel, and yet it still sounded awesome.

Really, that's fascinating. Maybe an odd IP print?

It is possible, look at releases such as Conan where night shots were not correctly timed for the Blu Ray.
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(2017-01-09, 10:15 PM)zoidberg Wrote: .... BTW the mono sample was great! A true mono with everything folded to the single channel, and yet it still sounded awesome.

Where you able to download the Side B sample ? It is just some minutes from the Hospital scene.

I really like the sound, even if it is just mono, it sounds quite powerful.
"Never cut a deal with a dragon..."
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#65
I haven't heard side B yet, is it in the same folder? I will check it out. Good sound design is good sound design. Who needs 11.2 channels of bland when you can have 1 channel of awesome! That being said, T2 is one of the best multi-channel sound mixes of all time.
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#66
Or Mad Max 2 the Blu-ray looks like crap, you even have the DP commentary where he mentions colors of the desert that are nowhere on the screen (it was probably recorded to a DVD of the film).
Usually going back to the O Neg is opening to the door to reworking the whole film again. IPs usually looks like the final film.

Yes the mono T2 sounds awesome!
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#67
Same Folder. Smaller file, just 6 Minutes sample of side B. Here the lack of filter is quite obvious...
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(2017-01-10, 12:39 AM)zoidberg Wrote:
(2017-01-09, 11:32 PM)PDB Wrote:
(2017-01-09, 10:15 PM)zoidberg Wrote: IIRC the SQZ laserdisc was created from a print which omitted the colour correction gels from the timing pass, but anything filmed with lighting gels would still be present (future war etc). Still not sure this curiosity got onto the shelves. BTW the mono sample was great! A true mono with everything folded to the single channel, and yet it still sounded awesome.

Really, that's fascinating. Maybe an odd IP print?

It is possible, look at releases such as Conan where night shots were not correctly timed for the Blu Ray.

Conan is easy. It was a negative scan not an IP scan with the correct day for night color timing. The colonists didn't do the work of fixing those scenes. If you watch 50s and 60s era films on DVD (when day for was big) they are often missing the correct dark tinting.
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#69
Yes, even TV shows restored in HD give day for night shot as day! Totally absurd, but there's nothing you can do because the power is in the hands of people who don't care.
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If someone is interested, I could post later a comparison video of the regraded BD using squeezed LD as color reference; still encoding, it will be ready in few hours; curious to see result in motion - previous test has some artefacts, now the actual one *should* be artefacts-free, I hope so...
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