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You know KK, all films shoudn't have natural fleshtones. In fact, most old school films all had a special technicolor look, that does not include at any time natural fleshtones.
I don't see a difference between the DVD and the regraded myself, and saturation looks good on my monitor. Your monitor is probably calibrated differently.
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(2015-02-27, 06:02 PM)Stamper Wrote: You know KK, all films shoudn't have natural fleshtones. In fact, most old school films all had a special technicolor look, that does not include at any time natural fleshtones.
I don't see a difference between the DVD and the regraded myself, and saturation looks good on my monitor. Your monitor is probably calibrated differently.
Never said they had to, depends on when the film was shot and numerous other factors. Many of my own regrades don't exactly have natural looking fleshtones. What tends to be more important is maintaining colour consistency ie not having fleshtones changing from shot to shot in the same scene where the lightsource remains unchanged. When as your objective you have recreating the colours of a certain previous release though, you have to get the fleshtones exactly like in that release, whether natural looking or not.
Perhaps my monitor shows more subtleties in colour than yours I don't know, to my eyes PDB's regrade screencaps have the fleshtones looking more red while the DVD fleshtones look more orange. I'm on my laptop now and the difference is much less apparent than it was on my 30 inch monitor but still noticable.
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Agree. No monitor is calibrated the same thought lol
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This has all the makings of a definitive Mad Max 2 (or will it be a definitive Road Warrior)? Terrific work so far!
I'd be pleased to help in one or two areas, given a bit of time. First off, I really need to do a bitperfect rip and sync of the PCM - the old one's a good edit, but it was done on my old soundcard. This project deserves the best possible, I'm sure you'll agree.
The other is the WB logo. Criterion's Badlands release included the original logo in flat format, which should fit the MM2 logo better without the anamorphic distortion. It still needs a little uncropping (the one in MM2 is an unmatted flat version) but I reckon we can pull that off. I can provide the logo as-is, or make the windowboxed MM2 version to splice into your edit - I'll leave that up to you!
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Do you have a rip of the 97 laserdisc video?
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Well it looks like our friend taas007 is on the job. I asked if he could create the warner logo from scratch and it looks pretty damn good! So i'll run it by PDB and see what he thinks.
Jonno, i think that would be awesome if you did another LD bitperfect rip.
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Well that's better still - taas is the go-to guy! Email me if you/he can use the Badlands logo in any way.
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Thanks Jonno, i already send and AVI from Badlands just incase to him but it was a good idea. I was tying to think of other movies that had it with different aspect ratio before i talked to taas. That logo keeps disappearing from movies it seems.
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(2015-02-28, 10:57 AM)jonno Wrote: This has all the makings of a definitive Mad Max 2 (or will it be a definitive Road Warrior)? Terrific work so far!
I'd be pleased to help in one or two areas, given a bit of time. First off, I really need to do a bitperfect rip and sync of the PCM - the old one's a good edit, but it was done on my old soundcard. This project deserves the best possible, I'm sure you'll agree.
The other is the WB logo. Criterion's Badlands release included the original logo in flat format, which should fit the MM2 logo better without the anamorphic distortion. It still needs a little uncropping (the one in MM2 is an unmatted flat version) but I reckon we can pull that off. I can provide the logo as-is, or make the windowboxed MM2 version to splice into your edit - I'll leave that up to you!
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Do you have a rip of the 97 laserdisc video?
(2015-02-28, 09:03 PM)DoomBot Wrote: Well it looks like our friend taas007 is on the job. I asked if he could create the warner logo from scratch and it looks pretty damn good! So i'll run it by PDB and see what he thinks.
Jonno, i think that would be awesome if you did another LD bitperfect rip.
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Hey Jonno, I was talking with Doombot about that. Should we go with Mad Max or Road Warrior? I was leaning towards MM2 since that is officially the real title of the movie. But I'm open to ideas. I'd love to maybe do Road Warrior in the future but those titles would have to be scaled up or re-done.
I'd love a new copy of Road Warrior's PCM if you are willing to share. No rush at the moment. I've got plenty of projects and plenty of time.
Thanks for the advice about Badlands. Doombot did give me a copy of the intro. It was much better then the 2.35 logos. And the geometry matched better, no need the stretch. I cropped it, cut it before the "presents" part. Duplicated the last frame, added a fade and then re-colored it to match the RW DVD
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It was much better but still not there. Too zoomed in. Luckily as Doombot said he asked taas007 to recreate it in HD and he delivered:
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Looks right, geometry is right, not zoomed, etc, etc. Thanks, Doombot and please thanks taas007 for me. The man lives up to his rep. This is definitely the way to go.
I don't have the 97 LD video. I assume it is the same as the DVD. Does it lack the pink bias the DVD has sometimes?
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I'll try and sort out a capture for you. I'm moving house in about a week, and stuff is gradually disappearing into boxes, but this should be fairly straightforward -I'll keep you posted!
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(2015-03-01, 10:20 AM)jonno Wrote: I'll try and sort out a capture for you. I'm moving house in about a week, and stuff is gradually disappearing into boxes, but this should be fairly straightforward -I'll keep you posted!
Thanks jonno. I appreciate it. No hurry and good luck on the move.
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