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4K UHD - Alternative audio thread
#61
(2020-12-18, 05:48 PM)X5gb Wrote: Have you compared AMZN against BD.

I'm only comparing what I have at the moment. The only Amazon WEBRip I have is GoldenEye which blows the BD out of the water. But I guess that goes without saying since the BD is notoriously awful. But, as I mentioned previously, the playWEB WEB-DL is the way to go for this movie as it's identical in quality to the much larger Amazon rip.

Which other movies do you know of that have Amazon rips available?
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#62
The ones that I know of: Dr No, FRWL, Goldfinger, Thunderball, OHMSS, YOLT & Goldeneye.
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#63
Which release group are those?
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#64
Thunderball (1965)
BD audio to DEFLATE 4K WEB: +5505ms

DEFLATE 4K WEB has more detail and more vivid colours than BD despite some compression artefacts. 4K WEB is slightly more magenta on this one.
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all AJP69 outside of Goldeneye.
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#66
To keep this thread on topic. Here's a non-007 alternate audio that's worth muxing:

The Lord Of The Rings (Theatrical)
FOTR / TT / ROTK
BD DTS-HD MA to UHD: Syncs perfectly. No delay required.

Reports suggest that the new Atmos mix has some added and changed effects. This also means that the Cinema DTS track to TT also syncs. See here:
https://fanrestore.com/thread-2833.html

Judging by the spectrograms posted, the BD audio is fairly close to the original (oscar-winning) sound mix.
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(2020-12-17, 04:58 PM)Turisu Wrote: Yes. playWEB are the best I've found as well. They're comparable to the GASMASK WEBRips but much smaller in size being ripped from the servers rather than HDMI captured. I'll do some BD audio sync tests to the playWEB releases then.

The only spy whomloved me I found was in the wrong RGB space, is there a correct one?
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#68
Just checked on my Shield the first scene of playweb Goldeneye against AMZN myself and I wouldn't say they are identical. The playweb has macroblocking artifacts not present in the AMZN rip. They may be the same source but the playweb compression is definitely worse than AMZN. Does anyone know what the original untouched stream bitrate is for AMZN's 2160p sources prior to capture, I know paywebs are around only 14.8mbps.
The overall picture quality of the other playweb ones I’ve checked so far don’t appear as stable as either the AMZN rips or iTunes Deflate (even with the compression/DNR removing grain on these ones).
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(2020-12-19, 04:28 PM)dvdmike Wrote:
(2020-12-17, 04:58 PM)Turisu Wrote: The only spy whomloved me I found was in the wrong RGB space, is there a correct one?

The DEFLATE release has the raised blacks. This comparison suggests there is another with correct black levels but I don't know which release it is:
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=8303

(2020-12-19, 08:15 PM)X5gb Wrote: The overall picture quality of the other playweb ones I’ve checked so far don’t appear as stable as either the AMZN rios or iTunes Deflate (even with the compression/DNR removing grain on these ones).

Are you certain that the DEFLATE releases are from iTunes? I've been very interested in finding out the source of these.
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Deflate are iTunes source, juat search in google for James Bond Deflate iTunes for confirmation from news articles in 2019.
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