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  How to Talk Box
Posted by: lionmane - 2021-07-05, 07:17 PM - Forum: Everything else... - Replies (2)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_L5v9OTSxc

Also, the Top Ten Songs Played With a Talk Box:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsOgs_jPjVk

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  Back to the future trilogy effects edit.
Posted by: jedimasterplo - 2021-07-04, 02:41 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (7)

Can someone please look into upgrading the Back to the future trilogy special effects that really stick out badly. I think it might only be the flying car scenes and the scenes with the hoverboard. if anyone knows of any other scenes could you please look into those as well and use the uhd as a source and for the audio use the laserdiscs theatrical audio.

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  Amadeus (1984) 35mm Theatrical-Cut. Help Needed!
Posted by: freedomland - 2021-07-04, 12:56 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (41)

I originally posted this first in originaltrilogy.com and hopefully, it is of interest to someone in this forum:

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Amadeu...P/id/87177

This has been haunting me for a long time and finally there are news in this project which I can finally share with you. I had the opportunity to snatch a 35mm copy of Amadeus (1984) in his glorious theatrical-cut on eBay in February 2021. Even though I did not know much about the difference between the theatrical and director’s cut, I came across with the thread here on this forum(originaltrilogy) about the contribution of jimbotron235. I take the opportunity to thank you here for your amazing project which also motivated me to have a focus on obtaining the 35mm-Copy of Amadeus (1984): 

(https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Amadeu...d/id/16803)

I saw this movie for the first time in our school’s music class, my teacher loved it so much that we watched the entire movie in two sessions. Over the years, this classic became the prototype-movie of a character study for me in which two masters of their time try to either preserve their dominance at all costs or gain the fame they deserve through talent and competence. Told from a retro perspective, the protagonist is able to see his mistakes and shortcomings. Through this perspective, it becomes a psychological homage on forgiveness and regret.

When I saw this copy on eBay, I didn’t hesitate to buy it without bringing it up here first. I also wanted to make sure that the quality of the film is sufficient since it is an old print from the 80th copied in East Germany. The seller was upfront and honest in the first place and clarified that the colours faded, or more precisely: faded to magenta.

I was in contact with Dr.Cooper about this during that time and he reassured me that there are strong tools to overcome this issue already. He is also going to help me and guide this project with grading and restoring the whole film. Since it is my first project, I am thankful that he offered his help.

A couple of weeks ago, I also found a good opportunity for scanning the whole thing in 3208 x 2200 Pixels (approx.: 3,5K). Since I already got a test-scan of the second reel, I can confirm that the shift is relevant, but not the big deal I was afraid of. Although I am new to Davinci Resolve, I was able to tune down the magenta-shift with ravishing results. I think with the help of Dr.Cooper there is a lot more to get out of the print. Despite the fact that the print is not in a pristine shape regarding the fade to magenta, it has this magic only film is capable to reproduce. Currently I can only speak for the second reel, but there is not much dirt or many scratches on the film. I did some screen-caps for having an idea about how it is going to look later. 

Just keep in mind: the copy has German optical-mono-sound, so nothing fancy, but it is still good to listen to and at least from an archival perspective also interesting to preserve as well. Dr.Cooper mentioned the English Laserdisc-Track which we can sync to this release, and there is also the DD-track on the DVD from 1997, which is mentioned by jimbotron235 in his Amadeus-Thread. Any help here, is also welcome.

My plan is to scan the rest of the film and restore the colours as soon as possible. Therefore, I need donations for scanning, shipping and storage, which will cost roundabout 300€ in total. The print is already paid. Therefore, I will take pledges towards the scanning costs, shipping and storage. When the project is funded, I will collect the donations and then order the scanning right away. The release will be exclusive for donors. Anyone who is interested in preserving this classic in 35mm is welcome to help covering the costs, please send me a message.

Here are some screen-caps. They're illustrating the magenta-shift and also hopefully, what we can get out of it. Please keep in mind that these aren't final results. I used a roughly rendered 1080p-file, which has just 8-Bit and 4:2:0. I can fully trust the scanning opportunity, since I know them and I have seen very good results already.

Pledges so far(83% reached):

The Aluminum Falcon: 15$(12€) paid in advance
NeonBible: 20€ paid in advance
allldu: 10€ paid in advance 
camskittles18: 20$(16€) paid in advance
magstock: 50$(40€) paid in advance
Trystero: 30€ paid in advance

stwd4nder2: 10$(8€) paid in advance OT
Soupdrinker0: 20€  paid in advance OT
SpacemanDoug: 25$ paid in advance OT
ZackR: 15$ OT
tlen: 30€ paid in advance OT
Leatherface: 15$(13€) paid in advance OT
potatowes: 25$(20€) paid in advance OT
javidial 18€ paid OT
littlejoe416 20€ paid OT
gr33nban 10$ paid OT
0x897673 15€ paid OT
Venny 10€ paid OT
stretch009 18$ OT


350€ are pledged. 



Edit: I am finally able to release a first version of Amadeus. Till recently I definitely wanted to avoid a non-final-release, but I came to conclusion that a progressional-release might be less stressful for all., meaning that I will give an update soon on a new grading I am working on. I am happy to lay aside the delay-phase and that we can finally watch this entirely, even with some issues. I hope you all enjoy this. I am going to provide all participants a link to Amadeus. If I miss someone, please reach out to me.

Edit2: I didn't have much time, but before I go to shift this thread to the released or maybe progress section, I want to appreciate the endless help of Dr. Cooper and the innumerable discussion we had together. He was and still is my mentor for this project. Without him this project wouldn't have been possible on many levels. Let alone the scan, but on moral support, knowledge, feedback and many other assets he was willing to share with me. Thank you Dr. Cooper. Looking forward for coming projects hopefully. (Sorry, I cant seem to tag your name, until then I made your name look taller). And also many thanks on The Aluminum Falcon for assisting me with several issues as well.

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  Amazon Matrix Open Mattes
Posted by: Hitcher - 2021-07-03, 10:09 PM - Forum: Movies, TV shows and other - Replies (5)

Amazon open matte Web-DLs of Reloaded and Revelations have appeared in the last few days and from a quick look they seem a bit dark too me. This is the first time I've seen OM versions at this quality though. Anyone else checked them out?

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  Hi all
Posted by: Trollking1 - 2021-07-02, 10:51 PM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (1)

Someone recommended this forum for audios that are missing on BluRay and UHD. I was impressed with some of the work done and could not resist to make a registration and be a user here.
Regards.

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  Best audios found in LD/DVD/BD
Posted by: xwang3633 - 2021-07-02, 09:17 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (15)

Here's a list of best audios I found for films I like. This is inspired by blah-ray.blogspot.com, I agree with many conclusions by Moshrom, but I can only give short conclusions based on quick comparing. 

I may or may not have captured these tracks, but you can ask me if you're interested. My LD track capture is not bit-perfect and may have glitches, but I'm sure it sounds good. For DVDs, I feel the version with best audio often has the best image too, no need to sync them to another release.

For some old tracks whose detail became muffled (but actually not lacking), I think restoration (even at its best, no strange EQ applied) often makes them sound worse. Because the original one may have a fuller vocal/timbre, a more confortable soundstage, and thus more musical and emotional.

I also found some new films with a better audio, often the optional 2.0 track in DVD/BD release, and they (if not a downmix) may sound better than 5.1 track. (I strongly recommend to watch all of them, they're the best films with best made audios in recent years.)

I've been thinking about why people (especially reviewers and specialists) always makes wrong choices: they only care about quality of "image" and "sound". But sound is not all about sound, it includes how voices are projected (from every object), how they're recorded (and being listened to), and even the "desire" (for listening)  itself. A great orignal track often involves all of these, media now has full self reflexivity, and we have full conscious of what we're listening to. That's why flaws will not decrease (even add to) our listening experiences, as long as real informations are well kept.

L'Atalante (1934)
The best version of this film is a VHS recording of the 1990 restoration. Or you can find Artificial Eye DVD, better than the Criterion and Gaumont Bluray.

Mr. Hulot's Holiday (1953) & Playtime (1967)
For Mr. Hulot's Holiday, everything in the Theatrical Cut seems more original.
For Playtime, The Criterion 2001 DVD is the only correct version for me, though not good enough.

Ugetsu (1953)
The original audio in Criterion Laserdisc [CC1317L] (captured), and restoration in Kadokawa BD, both sound good and well balanced. I prefer the original one.

Johnny Guitar (1954)
Arthaus DVD track is a suprising find, should be original mono track and sounds great to me. It's remixed (to stereo?) in almost all other versions.

The Night of the Hunter (1955)
MGM R1 is a bit tricky, it's less detailed than it seems. Laserdisc [ML101107] is better, which has more bass, more air, fuller vocal.

Anatomy of a Murder (1959)
RCA/Columbia Laserdisc [30701] analog, I captured this too.

Hiroshima mon amour (1959)
Found a Filmax R2 DVD, it sounds amazing.

Psycho‎ (1960)
The mono track in Warner DVD is more original than mono track in Bluray. (It sounds similar with the uncut German TV version.)

Ohayo (1959) & Late Autumn (1960)
The tracks restored by Shochiku is good but a little artificial, the tracks in old Shochiku Laserdiscs have a little more body and sound more natural (dynamic is less compressed!).

Pickpocket (1959) & Au hasard Balthazar‎ (1966)
The old IVC DVDs have tracks better than latter DVDs/Blurays, though not perfect.

Naked Childhood (1968)
MOC DVD is better than the Criterion DVD and Gaumont Bluray.

2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
The track in Warner 1999 DVD is great to me, although it's very lossy (64kbps per channel). I don't have the MGM 1998 DVD.

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  Wallace & Gromit Collection Hi-Res Audio 24/96 6.1 tracks from Hong Kong Blu-ray
Posted by: Hydra Spectre - 2021-07-01, 02:47 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - No Replies

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Wallace-a...ay/120480/
This Hong Kong Blu-ray has the best quality audio for the short films, being in 24-bit 96 kHz Hi-Res Audio.

They may be upmixes but they still sound like upgrades, especially since their Dolby Digital cores are most likely Dolby Digital EX 6.1 just like the Hong Kong DVDs here:
https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Wallace-and-...VD/223815/
https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Wallace-and-...VD/223816/

There are cases of TrueHD 5.1 tracks having 6.1 EX cores such as Top Gun and the Hong Kong Blu-ray of Ghost in the Shell: The New Movie (with the latter being Hi-Res Audio just like this Blu-ray).
Regardless, they would definitely have better audio than the 16-bit UK Blu-ray or the 24-bit US Blu-ray even if they have identical sources.

Unfortunately, these Hong Kong Blu-rays are now hard to find since they are not on YesAsia and I could not find them on eBay Hong Kong.

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Question Exporting 5.1 audio from Premiere not working (see pics)
Posted by: CORTICALSYSTEMS - 2021-07-01, 06:50 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (4)

Hey friends,

I've tried multiple ways to export my 5.1 audio from a video clip from Premiere but it seems like whatever I do I cannot get it to recognize each channel when I re-import it to check.



Audio in Premiere (note the unique individual channels)

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The exported audio examined in Audition (why are channels missing?)
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My export settings (I've tried: wav and AAC) Note I've selected 5.1

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  No Retreat, No Surrender fullscreen
Posted by: Nfsfan83 - 2021-06-30, 10:07 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - No Replies

Guys I need Your help whit this investigation:

BD vs DVD 4:3

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I have DVD PAL ISO from torrent, but what is release???  So nice colors? Any ideas?

Possible this DVD PAL is made from NTSC but not sure

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/fi...fid=5652#2

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  Does anyone have The Crow LD PCM?
Posted by: PDB - 2021-06-30, 08:06 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (6)

Or on the off chance besides the PCM, the DD 5.1 or the DTS 5.1 (Smile)

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