I know it's 2020, but I guess I still have some questions that I couldn't quite figure out about Dialog Nomarlization on AC-3, THD and DTS tracks.

I noticed that on the majority of AC-3 and THD encoded tracks on commertial discs, when attemped to decode to wav/w64 with EAC3TO,  the program detects clipping and makes a second pass applying a negative gain to correct the issue. But it's usally less than the -4db Dialog Normalization standard.

- So my first question is, in case of such tracks, if Dialog Normalization flag is removed from an encoded track (EAC3TO default demuxing parameter), what would happen when played back and decoded by a regular consumer AVR product? I mean, will it occour in clipping?

My guess is that the receiver won't be able to perform such second pass correction on the fly. Is this assumption correct?


- The second question is, what's the practical implication of applying such negative gain, Does it affect the quality of the audio in any way?


- Third and final question, what about a positive gain (usually applied when setting the "normalize" option on EAC3To decoding process), does it have any negative impact on the audio quality?

In other words, is applying a positive gain is more "harmfull" than a negative one?


Thanks a lot for any valuable info!
I did a previous search on these issues, but couldn't find convincing answers. So what's better than couting on the knowledge of the great userbase here.

It's been a year since I first joined fanres! Doesn't time fly when you are having fun  I've learned a ton of stuff I had no idea about before, got several projects under my belt and "met" a load of great people who have helped me out no end with technical advice, project materials and transfer services. This is a really great community and I have a load of interesting projects planned for the coming year. Thanks all.

According to LDDB.com all Japanese release of JP on LD have two trailers on them.
If anyone has the LD and can also capture them, I'd appreciate it.

We need the audio for the 35mm trailers

Thanks in advance

and before anyone ask/offers: I do have JP Trilogy on DVD. So no need for these trailers.

does anyone have the DTS CD ROM's for the theatrical release of Mission Impossible 2? preferably from the UK

trying to confirm if there was some audio censorship to the film.

Hi All,

So I've seen that these have had blu ray releases in Germany and Spain, but I was under the impression they were DVD upscales. I've recently seen someone in a facebook group selling bootleg blu rays and they claim to have both of these and they are sourced from HD scans not SD upscales. 

Does anyone know if there is any truth to this? Is there a blu ray somewhere in the world featuring a HD scan or is this guy telling lies? The same guy is also claiming to have a HD scan sourced blu ray of Fade to Black 1980, which again as far as I am aware does not have a blu ray release anywhere in the world that uses a HD scan. 

Thanks

hi there! love all the amazing work going on here and i'm happy to join. also have a few things in the works that i hope to share soon!

hi Booshman

I read your thread
is there a way to watch it? myspleen does not take new registrations

would really appreciate any help

thank you!

Hey everyone it's Watt from France.

On a long quest for info on proper versions of various films *, I visit many places, and today I saw material here that grabbed my attention and so I've decided to register to learn more from this community.


* this must be a quite common motive, I mean you must come across many ppl like that, but in general I seek proper colors and contents, like I remember the films looking and feeling when I was young. looking for proper blade runner for instance was especially tiring, getting all the cuts and then looking into fan edits lol.
audio-wise the extra (harder) quest for me is sometimes to find the desired version with french dub track, or (superharder) original french dubs. yeah because ruined colors isn't sadistic-enough, we get awful re-dubs. like imagine jaws with not-the-roy-scheider you know speaking. ugh.
anyway the quest is far from over.


Thanks for having me

Spread this news everywhere to show WB there is indeed support to release the original cut of Batman Forever.

Now there's finally talk about officially releasing the longer version:
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/b...er-1234697441/
This has made it to a number of sites and there's a twitter movement starting but of course without any of the Snyder cut fanfare. According to the sources the cut actually exists in the vaults at 170 min and WB doesn't know if there's demand to release it.
There has been since they teased it back in 2005 darn it.

My petition is now a year old and has almost 400 signatures.
https://www.change.org/p/warner-brot...batman-forever

Personally I would think that it would have been released as intended at 2 hr 15 up to 2 hr 30 depending on the shooting script and final cut before Warner had their way with it cutting down to 122 min and restructuring the opening. But at least there's something to work with and it could easily be a Warner Archive release if they don't do a Donner Cut style standalone. All it needs is a new scan, color timing, sound polish and you could even integrate the footage into the 4K theatrical master since that's already done.


Me babbling tech talk about the audio mix of the theatrical cut and how weirdly the 2.0 mix is better than the 5.1:
When I first started digging into the tech aspects of the film and realized that the old 2.0 matrix mix was better done than the 5.1 this is one of the many things that suddenly jumped out at me. (Widescreen Review said the same in their old LD and DVD reviews) I think if some old reports I've read are to be believed that many of the actors had to re-record dialogue elsewhere during post due to busy schedules which might account to the slightly canned sound to the dialogue-but yes it's ADR everywhere so much so that the discrete 5.1 mix accentuates the hiss and artifice of the rerecorded audio so one you notice it you can't quite unnotice it.

The 2.0 mix like a lot of mid 90's WB tracks weirdly has better mixed presence in the surround despite it being mono and a better low end. While the clarity takes a hit this does negate a lot of the audible noise in the ADR and makes it much less obvious.