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Night Of The Living Dead Criterion Blu-Ray Release - 2016 Copyright at end of film |
Posted by: crampedmisfit1990 - 2018-04-19, 04:24 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help
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Hi, Guys. I wondered if anyone would want to fix the added 2016 copyright at the end of the NOTLD Criterion BD? I ask because the film looks amazing and is for sure the best release to date… but a 2016 copyright is splattered on the screen as the bodies burn at the very end. Kinda takes me out of the film. Petty I know but it is what it is. I am not quite up to the task but I would think lots of people here could do it pretty easily and fast. All that would need to be done is to patch out the copyright with perfectly aligned HD footage from another BD release. Maybe slight color correction. I have the video to work with if anyone would like to do this project.
PS: And yes I know why the 2016 copyright was placed there… to copyright the new restoration done lately. No need to explain that part.
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SDR -> HDR "upconversion" |
Posted by: spoRv - 2018-04-18, 11:03 PM - Forum: General technical discussions
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Before shoot me, let me say I'm not that HDR expert, so please forgive me if I'll write stupid/useless/impossible things...
Said so, I'm curious to know if there is a way to "upconvert" SDR to HDR.
I'm pretty sure there is - like we upscale SD to HD, or upmix stereo to multichannel etc. - sure, quality will never be as the "real thing", but until a certain movie will be available in HDR, could be an alternative - can't say how valid.
Bear with me: lately I (and others) am experimenting with high contrast versions, to get that "movie look" so nice; of course, it's far to be considered HDR, but I thought about this: with only 220 "steps" in luma in rec.709, we have limited ability for dynamic range; in rec.2020 10bit, we would have 4 times those steps; I'm aware this is not strictly HDR, still there is more space to "expand" the dynamic range. The next step would be to add the right metadata to have HDR. And here I'm completely lost...
But I'm starting to think about this, because, sooner or later, we will be "forced" to upgrade to UHD - as we were from SD to HD (glad I started at the right moment!)
Ideas, opionions, proposals, experiences?
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Equilibrium 2002 VAR Open Matte Crossmux |
Posted by: deleted user - 2018-04-15, 05:27 AM - Forum: Released
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This is a Crossmux of Equilibrium (2002) combining shots from the JPN Blu Ray and the US Open Matte Blu Ray, something I wanted to do for quite a while.
Personally, I like to call this project:
Equilibrium - Ultimatte Edition
Now, you may wonder what the hell a "Crossmux" is. I use this term to describe a project that combines shots from various Blu Ray Editions with as little reencoding as possible. Specifically, the only reencoding took place at the cut points. Most of the video stream is an 1:1 copy of the corresponding video streams in the original Blu Rays, so there is virtually no quality loss. This was achieved with TMPGEnc Smart Renderer 5.
Here's what this is ultimattely (pun intended) about:
Equilibrium in one of the US Blu Rays is presented in an Open Matte version, showing more image on the top/bottom than the scoped OAR (original aspect ratio) version. This is great, because I personally love seeing more. But this version also has a downside: Some shots, in particular VFX shots, actually show more image in the Scope version and are strongly zoomed in for the Open Matte version, degrading the quality and robbing you of some available image. Granted, the Open Matte version even has more headroom in those VFX shots, but only minimally so and the cost for it is a great loss of image at the sides.
So I decided to replace those zoomed in shots with shots from the best known Scope source, the JPN Blu Ray. Specifically, I used the AVISynth plugin AutoOverlay to determine exactly which segments show more image in the Scope version and then went on to replace all those, after fixing some detection errors by hand. In total there are ca. 110 final cuts in between the two sources. In a handful of shots, the gains are minimal, in a particularly extreme case below 1 percent, but in most shots the gains are larger.
I tried to calculate the precise amount of gain, but it's difficult, because the overlay detection wasn't flawless in all cases. Here are some of the most useful numbers in my opinion (but take them with a grain of salt, as they aren't 100% accurate due to mentioned issues): The Median gain of image in the replaced scope shots is roughly 15.5% compared to the Open Matte shots. The Median gain of image in the Open Matte shots compared to the scope shots is roughly 31.5%.
So, whether you have seen the Open Matte or the Scope version, you gain a little image in either case. The vast majority of shots is Open Matte.
Caveat with mild spoiler: In one case the JPN and Open Matte Blu Rays weren't perfectly in sync. It's when Preston gets back out of his car to put the dog in the trunk. In the JPN version the shot of his face while making the decision stays longer and there's an additional shot of his hand turning the keys back off. To not sacrifice any image, I used the beginning of the face shot from the Open Matte and the last few frames from the JPN, as they were missing in the Open Matte. It's not a big deal, but it may look a tad awkward, so don't be surprised.
The audio was taken straight from the JPN Blu Ray and is perfectly (frame accurately) in sync with that Blu Ray. This is a great step up from the stereo track available on the Open Matte Blu Ray, which was always one of its major criticisms alongside with the zoomed in shots.
TLDR: This version takes the shots that show the most image from both Open Matte US and scoped JPN Blu Ray versions, and is synced to the great audio of the JPN Blu Ray. It's the ultimatte version of Equilibrium.
I also included a Dolby Headphone track for your viewing pleasure. Enjoy!
Available on Blutopia.
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DTS soundtracks on laserdisc and not on DVD or BD? |
Posted by: spoRv - 2018-04-15, 02:36 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help
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LAST UPDATE: 2018-04-20
I’d like to know which title of the following list
has not a DVD and/or BD edition with a DTS soundtrack
OR
where the DTS soundtrack is present, the DVD/BD edition is different from theatrical presentation but the laserdisc is the same
OR
the DTS soundtrack is half bitrate (768kbps) - where laserdisc are 1441kbps - or the quality is not that good
OR
simply, there is no DVD or BD edition at all!
This to determine which title could be eligible for a DTS soundtrack restoration, using the laserdisc DTS soundtrack and the best video available (BD or, if not available, DVD or, if there is no digital edition at all, the laserdisc video).
So, here you are a list of NTSC USA laserdiscs with DTS Digital Surround soundtrack:
- … 12 Monkeys (1995) 43208
- … Alien Resurrection (1997) 0032584
- … Apollo 13 (1995) 43119 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Armageddon (1998) 16066 AS -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery: Special Edition (1997) ID4402LI -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Babe (1995) 43209 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Blade (1998) ID5423LI -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Blown Away (1994) ML106171
- … Boogie Nights (1997) ID4415LI
- … Born on the Fourth of July (1989) *** ID4482MC -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Broken Arrow (1996) 0896384
- … Carlito’s Way (1993) ID4425MC
- … Casino (1995) 43117 -> The BD is DTS 5.1 but likely a new mix.
- … Casper (1995) 43120
- … Con Air (1997) 12881 AS
- … Crimson Tide (1995) 12156 AS
- … Crow, The (1994) 12157 AS
- … Dante’s Peak (1997) 43364 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Dark City (1998) ID4643LI -> theatrical was reissued as a bonus to the Director’s cut and not in DTS.
- … Daylight (1996) 43271 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Deep Rising (1998) 15066 AS
- … Die Hard (1988) *** 0890584 -> original sound mix altered for all 5.1 remixes.
- … Die Hard 2: Die Harder (1990) *** 0890684 -> original sound mix altered for all 5.1 remixes.
- … Die Hard 3: With A Vengeance (1995) 0885884 -> New BD audio very strong but not as detailed as a 1995 film should be, suspect a remix and not theatrical. -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story (1993) ID4426MC
- … Dragonheart (1996) 43207 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Eagles: Hell Freezes Over (1994) ID4065GF -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … English Patient, The (1996) 12356 AS
- … Eric Clapton: Unplugged (1992) ID4747WO
- … Evita (1996) §§§ 12096 AS -> original theatrical sound was Dolby Digital.
- … Firestorm (1997) 0277384
- … Flubber (1997) 14687 AS
- … Frighteners, The (1996) 43274
- … From Dusk Till Dawn (1996) 12160 AS
- … Game, The (1997) ID4386PG
- … Gate to the Mind’s Eye, The (1994) ID4068MM
- … Get Shorty (1995) ML107093
- … Getaway, The (1994) ID4471MC
- … Goldeneye: Special Edition (1995) ML105987 -> 2006 BD loses it’s thunderous bass and LFE.
- … Good Will Hunting (1997) 15112 AS
- … Great Expectations (1998) 0449284
- … Halloween: H20 (1998) 16070 AS
- … Happy Gilmore (1996) ID4423MC
- … Hard Target (1993) 43276
- … Heart and Souls (1993) ID4483MC
- … Hercules (1997) 15067 AS -> This Disney films all get 7.1 remixes nowadays, so the laserdisc DTS soundtrack is the original.
- … Hoodlum (1997) ML107094
- … Hunchback of Notre Dame, The (1996) 12354 AS -> This Disney films all get 7.1 remixes nowadays, so the laserdisc DTS soundtrack is the original.
- … In the Mouth of Madness: Special Edition (1994) ID3751LI -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … In the Name of the Father (1993) ID4484MC
- … Independence Day: ID4 (1996) 0411884
- … Jackal, The (1997) ID4424MC -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Jackie Brown (1997) 15065 AS -> BD mix is DTS 5.1 but may be sweetened as Tarantino likes to tweak his films for video.
- … Jackie Chan’s First Strike (1996) ID4713LI -> American dubbed and re-cut version.
- … Jurassic Park (1993) 43115
- … Kingpin (1996) ML107092
- … Kull the Conqueror (1997) ID4422MC
- … Last Man Standing (1996) ID3735LI
- … Liar Liar (1997) 43365 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Long Kiss Goodnight, The (1996) ID3738LI
- … Lost in Space (1998) ID4712LI
- … Lost World, The: Jurassic Park (1997) 43366
- … Man in the Iron Mask, The: Special Edition (1998) ML107203
- … Mask, The (1994) ID3752LI
- … Mimic (1997) 14343 AS
- … Mortal Kombat: Annihilation (1997) ID4421LI
- … Mortal Kombat: Special Edition (1995) ID3753LI -> The audio on the Mortal Kombat BD is weak compared to the DTS LD. There was also a commentary track never carried over to DVD or Blu.
- … Most Wanted (1997) ID4716LI
- … Mr. Holland’s Opus (1995) 12161 AS
- … Mr. Nice Guy (1997) ID4715LI
- … Mulholland Falls (1996) ML107089
- … Nightmare Before Christmas, The (1993) 12162 AS
- … Nutty Professor, The (1996) 43272 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Phenomenon (1996) 12159 AS
- … Pocahontas (1995) 12158 AS -> This Disney films all get 7.1 remixes nowadays, so the laserdisc DTS soundtrack is the original.
- … Pulp Fiction (1994) 12154 AS
- … Quest, The (1996) 43367
- … Red Corner (1997) ML107096
- … River Wild, The (1994) 43275 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Rob Roy (1995) ML107090
- … Rock, The (1996) 12155 AS
- … Ronin: Special Edition (1998) ML107602 -> BD uses LD DTS bitrate so it may be the same track.
- … Rush Hour (1998) ID5477LI
- … Schindler’s List (1993) 43277
- … Scream 2 (1997) 14607 AS
- … Scream: Director’s Edition (1996) 14797 AS
- … Seven (1995) ID3750LI
- … Shadow, The (1994) 43116 -> The German BD has LD DTS bitrate so it may be the same and theatrical; there was an early DVD of The Shadow with a DTS track, fullscreen unfortunately.
- … Shine (1996) ID3957LI
- … Six Days Seven Nights (1998) 16069 AS
- … Spawn: The Movie: Special Edition (1997) ID4236LI
- … Species (1995) ML105760
- … Speed (1994) 0896784
- … Stargate: Deluxe Edition (1994) LD 60231-DTS -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Strange Days (1995) 0893984
- … Street Fighter (1994) 43368
- … Sudden Death (1995) 43210
- … Super Speedway: IMAX (1997) ID4717OW
- … Timecop (1994) 43211
- … Tina Turner: Live in Amsterdam (1996) ID4019ER
- … Titanic (1997) LV334812-WSDTS
- … Tomorrow Never Dies (1997) ML107148 -> 2006 BD loses the surround clarity and in it’s unbelievable discrete effects.
- … Toy Story (1995) 12153 AS -> LD original mix, Blu-ray has a DTS-ES 6.1 remix
- … True Lies (1994) 0864084
- … Vertigo (1958) *** 43212 -> is the bad 5.1 remix with horridly intrusive new foley work. The new BD mix is supposedly a new and more faithful mix. The film is best in original mono.
- … Village of the Damned (1995) 43278
- … Volcano (1997) 0603984
- … Wag the Dog (1997) ID4646LI
- … Waterworld (1995) 43118 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
- … Wedding Singer, The (1998) ID4686LI
- … West Side Story (1961) ML107088 -> LD is a transfer of the original 70mm six-track audio mix
- … X-Files: The Movie (1998) 0044884
*** the movie’s soundtrack was not originally recorded in a multi-channel, digital audio format; these laserdiscs’ DTS soundtracks have been created by re-mastering the film’s original analog soundtrack
§§§ the movie’s soundtrack was originally recorded in a multi-channel digital audio format other than DTS Digital Surround
–> notes about DVD/BD DTS soundtrack (THANKS TO THE MEMBERS WHO POSTED HERE!)
TITLES IN BOLD - movies I own
STRIKEDTHROUGH - movies that doesn’t deserve a DTS soundtrack restoration for one of this reasons:
(DVD) DVD available with a DTS soundtrack better than the laserdisc edition
(BD) Blu-Ray available with a DTS soundtrack better than the laserdisc edition
(BD/DVD) Both DVD and Blu-Ray have better DTS soundtrack than laserdisc
Note: altough I strikedthrough some titles, this doesn't mean necessarily that DTS track on DVD is better than LD; it could have a different mix, or worst quality, as many DTS tracks on LD were 18-bit, while only 16-bit on DVD. So, any info on each of these title will be highly appreciated!
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2001 70mm 50th Anniversary Print |
Posted by: nafroe - 2018-04-13, 03:24 AM - Forum: Everything else...
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For those of you near the Castro in San Francisco, they will be showing a brand new 70mm print of 2001... Check out the description. Sounds really promising!
The Castro is proud to be screening a new 70MM print for the 50th Anniversary presentation of Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece.
For the first time since the original film’s release, this 70mm print was struck from new printing elements
made from the original camera negative, meaning it’s a true photochemical film recreation.
There are no digital tricks, remastered effects, or revisionist edits.
(1968, 142 min plus intermission, 70mm 'Scope)
http://www.castrotheatre.com/coming-soon.html
I'm guessing this print will be making the rounds... so keep an eye out in the coming months!
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Laserdisc "Renaissance" in Blu-ray? |
Posted by: spoRv - 2018-04-12, 02:49 AM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases
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You must admit almost all, here, would be more than happy to see the laserdisc format alive, again.
New movies on a long-time dead format... and, of course, anybody knows that it will never happen - even if a Digital Laserdisc built upon BD technology will lead to a 1.2TB monster disc that could contain an entire UHD long saga as Star Wars, or few long TV series seasons on HD, or... well, a lot of things!
OK, back on Planet Earth, and on topic: would be possible to get a laserdisc "Renaissance" on Blu-ray? I think so!
Laserdisc is not (only) an analog video format (with analog and/or digital audio); it's much more than this! It brought us a lot of innovations - widescreen, director's cut, digital audio, multichannel audio, multi audio tracks, special editions, box sets etc. and, without it, probably DVD and BD would never have existed.
We love that physical, huge disc... that big cover (better if gatefold, perfect if within box set) with great arts, liner notes... often inserts that were not mere chapter lists, but insights of interesting facts about the movie, or the format itself...
Video wise, even if it was top notch at the times, it can't stand HD (and UHD) formats of nowadays; still, sometimes its color timing (I guess the digital color grading was not applied on them) was similar to the one seen in the theaters (apart the obvious problems due to format and transfers); and sometimes it still has colors and/or contrast better than DVD and/or BD.
Audio wise, it's still a great pleasure to listen to a laserdisc track; very often they used the theatrical mixes, while not all the times those mixes were used for the DVD and BD editions, in particular when we talk about mono and stereo tracks.
Said so, I don't want to say that laserdisc is perfect, and blu-ray is a bad format, at the contrary: blu-ray is a great format itself - very good definition, lossless multichannel audio; still, sometimes, the content is not, well... "right"?
We got blu-ray editions with "wrong" colors and/or contrast, audio mixes, poor covers etc. - a format that good deserves more than this.
Now, you are asking yourself: 'What all this has to do with a so-called laserdisc "Renaissance"'?
Well, let me explain. We would love to get laserdisc back to life. We all know it will not be possible (unless a crazy multi-millionaire guy would do it for us, at loss, but it will not happen, probably...). Still, we can do something to bring laserdisc "spirit and/or flesh" in the blu-ray world. How?
Packaging:
recently, Disney, Warner and others have made a sort of analog revival, offering laserdisc/vinyl sized covers for their blu-ray and DVD - they called "Vinyl Edition" here in Italy.
They are a bit scarce in comparison to many laserdisc gatefold covers, but it's a start! Think also that it is possible (not too easily, I must admit) to make custom jackets for our blu-ray and DVD discs - a guy even made ones for his laserdiscs! http://www.aheroneverdies.com (web archive)
Video:
laserdisc is only standard definition, but in few rare cases it is the only (or the best) version available - as for title availability, or for its cut, or for the aspect ratio - for a given title; of course, this could be captured and placed onto a simple DVD; but blu-ray offers, apart the standard resolution compatibility, also the chance to use AVC instead MPEG-2, to get better quality at the same bitrate, and other improvements; also, it's possible to upscale the video to 720p/1080p, not to increase actual resolution (that is not there), but to get proper 24fps (23.976fps), in case you have PAL movies, or want to avoid possible interlacing problems. Or, if you want to just add scenes/shots (or even single frames) that are not present (or are censored) in the BD version.
But the previous case is not so common; more common (even if still rare in general) is that laserdisc colors *could* be better than the ones found on blu-ray - because quite some laserdisc titles used release or interpositive prints as color reference, while it's widely known that blu-ray use usually negative print (to get better resolution), and then try to color regrade it digitally to get colors as close as possible to release print (that were 20, 30, 40 years older than laserdisc master) - or, simply put, they regrade it to be more "modern" (teal & orange, anyone?).
In this case, laserdisc could be used as color reference to regrade the blu-ray; of course, it will be close to impossible to get the same identical colors (and, as written before, probably the laserdisc colors aren't perfect, and should need some color correction), but with the proper tools and skill it's possible to retain most, if not all, of the "laserdisc spirit".
Example - Waterworld (top WEB, middle LD, bottom HD regraded as laserdisc) (crop frame):
Link to full screen comparison (WARNING: NSFW, but the movie was PG-13, so I guess it's OK to post a link to it):
http://ultimateaspectratio.ga/UAR_compar...62749.html
Now, take in account that WEB version basically shares the same color grading as HD-DVD, blu-ray and DVD, even if it's not perfectly the same, but we are there; and the regrading is not 100% faithful to the laserdisc color (also because I tried to remove the slight magenta blanket) - I'd say 95% up to 99%, depending on the scene, but it perfectly retains it spirit, color and contrast wise.
Also, I didn't watch the movie in theaters at the time, but I have it in both NTSC, DS and DTS, and PAL Italian, and I distinctly remember the reviews about how good the transfer was - one said "colors are theatrical accurate"; can't vouch for this, of course, but *maybe* the reviewer watched the movie in theater few months earliers, and his memory was relatively fresh - surely more, in comparison, than the one of the author of a recent blu-ray review, that probably did watch the movie (if it's the case) in theater 15, 20 years early...
Indeed, I was quite disappointed when I bought the DVD, to discover that its colors was not as good as the laserdisc - as well as the HD-DVD - but a lot more muted, dull, with a lot of magenta in the sky and/or water - and, in a movie like this, there is A LOT of shots with water and/or sky!
Despite the fact we can't say for sure if the laserdisc colors are more theatrically accurate than blu-ray, I can't think the latter has better colors than the former... do you agree?
Audio:
it seems that almost all laserdisc mixes are the original, untouched theatrical ones - for convenience, lazyness, or else; Cinema DTS audio tracks, which were compared directly, are almost always identical to the LD DTS, apart the fact that obviously the former lack the LFE channel; some DVD editions may have imported them from LD, untouched - keep an eye at earlier 384kbps AC-3; but DTS track was almost always half bitrate on DVD (while full bitrate on LD) and often AC-3 tracks were "lighter" than the ones found on LD, in particular when the original tracks were matrixed surround, and the AC-3 were mere 192kbps...
Also, in many cases blu-ray uses remixed versions, or reconstructed ones - like upmixing original mono to 5.1 - and often does not offer the original track - sometime you can see a 1.0 in the audio track list, but it's not a guarantee it's the original one, and not simply a folddown of the remixed one...
Add to this the fact there are many commentaries and isolated score and/or effect tracks exclusive to laserdisc!
So, you can get the laserdisc audio and mux it with the blu-ray video ("vanilla", or regraded as laserdisc, to get the complete experience). Do note that it's possible to capture digital audio bit-perfect, even if PCM and DTS should be converted from 44.1KHz to 48KHz to be DVD/BD compliant, while AC-3 will remain untouched! Usually it is preferred, when both PCM and analog tracks have the same content, to capture only the PCM; but if the Japanese chose to use the analog tracks for their own language, instead PCM, there will be a reason... (more info about this in my post "Why laserdisc soundtracks are better…" here: https://fanrestore.com/thread-1107.html)
At the end, you could get the best of both world: blu-ray superior definition, excellent compression codecs that avoid (almost always) all that nasty artefacts seen on DVD, along with laserdisc content (in rare cases) or color grading/contrast (more common) and untouched (with AC-3 tracks) or almost untouched (DTS/PCM tracks) or very good (analog tracks) audio, packaged in a laserdisc sized cover that reminds the original ones.
Of course, this could be applied only to movies up to year 2000, and only some would be eligible to get a "laserdisc Reinessance treatment", but this will be rewarding, I think!
(posted also on lddb and ot)
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