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  The White Point/The Green Tint
Posted by: zoidberg - 2017-07-26, 10:51 PM - Forum: General technical discussions - Replies (11)

I've been doing a lot of digging around with regards to these blanket tints that a lot of Blu Rays tend to receive, especially with regards to those which have a DCP cinema release which is unaffected despite coming from the same master/restoration (obvious examples are The Terminator and Aliens). In doing so I've come across various forum threads and articles regarding the DCI colour space P3 and it's white point which is noticably green. Just search for 'P3 white point' and a ton of stuff comes up. This thread in particular stood out:

http://www.liftgammagain.com/forum/index...oint.1326/ 

I'm guessing something is happening on the conversion to Rec709, ie the white point has not been compensated, resulting in green whites. Once the discussion starts going into xyz values my brain goes a bit mushy but I'm sure there are members here who can make more sense of this.

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  Trainspotting: Criterion Collection Laserdisc Audio (PCM/AC3)
Posted by: zoidberg - 2017-07-26, 10:37 PM - Forum: Released - Replies (2)

I've capped the bit-perfect PCM and AC3 soundtracks from the Criterion Collection release of Trainspotting (CC1477L). They have been synced to the US Lionsgate BD and as such will sync with The Aluminium Falcon's Custom BD.

PM For mega download links, this will be available to active members of the forum only.

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  DVDs/LDs sourced from Theatrical Prints instead of IPs
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-07-26, 02:26 PM - Forum: General technical discussions - Replies (5)

DVDs/LDs sourced from Theatrical Prints instead of IPs
  • 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) Special Edition #60 (Uncut) [LD] [CC1160L] - sourced from 35mm master, which was a printdown of the original 70mmCinerama negative, but in same 2.20:1 aspect ratio
  • Akira: Special Edition (1988) LBX, USA - 1992 release [LD] [CC1294L]
  • American Werewolf in London [LD] [34679]
  • [/url]Atlantic City [LD] 34711
  • Black Christmas (1974) LBX, USA - 1999 release [LD] [11590]
  • Bringing Up Baby (1938) [LD] [ID3219TU] - print sourced, possibly from a fine grain source archived
  • Close Encounters of the Third Kind: Special Edition (1980) LBX, UK [LD] [LD 10003]
  • Doctor Zhivago (1965) LBX, USA - 1991 release [LD] [ML101526]
  • Earthquake (1974) [LD] [42072]
  • Evil Dead, The (1981) [LD] [SF078-5044]
  • Forgotten Tune for the Flute, A (1988) [LD] [ID7194FR]
  • Getaway, The (1972) LBX, USA - 1995 release [LD] [11122]
  • Ghostbusters (1984) [LD] [LD 13119]
  • Go west [LD](ML102561)
  • Incident at Blood Pass (1970) [LD] [AD098-039]
  • It's a Wonderful Life (1946) Special Edition #18 [LD] [CC1112L] - sourced from fine grain negative
  • Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind (1984) LBX, Japan - 1984 release [LD][98LX-1]
  • Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors [LD] 07136
  • North by Northwest #45A (1959) [LD] [CC1226L]
  • Olympia: Fest der Völker/Fest der Schönheit (1938) [LD] [IVCL-1015W]
  • Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid (1973) (Uncut) [LD] [ML102238] - sourced from Sam Peckinpah's personal print which he had to steal from the studio and keep in his garage. Only version that exists of uncut film, and same sourced used for DVd version
  • Pink Panther, The (1963) [LD] [ML102108] - seems to be anamorphic 35mm instead of a Technirama print
  • Shot in the Dark, A: Pink Panther (1964) [LD] [ML102110]
  • Silent Rage (1982) [LD] [VLD-5549]
  • Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) [LD] [LVG 2062]
  • Ten Commandments, The: 35th Anniversary (1956) LBX, USA - 1992 release [LD][[url=http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/21955/LV12971-3WS/]LV12971-3WS]
  • Terminator  (1984) LBX, USA - 1991 release [LD] [ID8316HD]
  • Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory: 25th Anniversary [LD] [14546]
Original post made on LDDB by AntcuuFaalb (thanks to him and other posters); as it was not updated, I thought to extract info from there, and continue the update here, adding also DVDs (I'm pretty sure there are no BDs/HD-DVDs with cue marks, but they will be added if I'm wrong!) when they will be found.

So, next time you'll watch a LD or DVD, and note those cue marks, please post the title here!

IB Technicolor changeover cue
[Image: 22_SINGIN.jpg]

anamorphic changeover cue
[Image: 22_VIVALA.jpg]

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  Spiderman Origins Bluray Set (Sam Raimi)
Posted by: Jetrell Fo - 2017-07-26, 05:04 AM - Forum: Movies, TV shows and other - Replies (12)

I thought I'd start a new thread for this so folks could discuss it more.

1. Has anyone else purchased either of the new Bluray sets?
2. Which one or did you get the Legacy Steelbook set?
3. What did or didn't you enjoy about Spiderman 3, the Editor's Cut?
4. Any fan edit ideas for this trilogy?

And go ..........................

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  O Brother, Where Art Thou? color grading
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-07-25, 02:22 PM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases - Replies (3)

The Colorist Wrote:Directors Joel & Ethan Coen and cinematographer Roger Deakins had the entire film scanned and digitally color graded at Cinesite in Los Angeles.

“It was shot in Mississippi in the summer, when it was green and lush,” says Bogdanowicz, “but they wanted a postcard sepia look. They went to a lab and tried to find some sort of process to get the feel they wanted, but they couldn’t achieve it. Color timers in a traditional lab would have used a heavy yellow-red color correction, which would have changed the blue in the sky and the denim jeans. So, the only way to achieve the look was digitally. Cinesite did a chroma-key on the green and turned it to brown gold.” -> link

http://imgur.com/a/TFmoy

So, according to the article, HDTV is the closest to the theatrical presentation IMHO; removing the usual magenta blanket would take it even closer.

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  The Mummy (2017) [spoRv]
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-07-25, 04:57 AM - Forum: Released - Replies (2)

The Mummy (2017) [spoRv]
[Image: TM_cover.jpg]
Source: original IPTV KorSub rip (video, English audio) very high quality; LD-TS (Italian audio) lower quality
Video: 1080p (1920x800 2.40:1 active image) 23.976fps AVC 16mbps (40mbps max)
Audio: AC-3 448kbps 5.1 English, AC-3 192kbps 2.0 Italian
Subs: hardcoded Korean, soft English (forced), English (full), Italian (forced)
Chapters: no
Runtime: 1h50m17s
Notes on the source: Korean hardcoded subs, half "12" yellow logo appears sometimes for few seconds on top right corner; Italian audio has lower volume than English and some distortion on high volume parts, while English is perfect and has great quality
Notes on the release: green blanked removed and natural color reinstated; contrast improved; one shot with five duplicated frames fixed; five minutes replaced with top quality source without subs, the rest was deblocked and sharpened, and a 35mm grain plate added, to get improved quality; Italian audio patched with English parts to replace missing ones, plus starting and ending credits; English and Italian forced subs created from scratch

Screenshots (1, 2, 4 top quality, 3 improved quality):
[Image: TM_017104_sporv.png]

[Image: TM_046566_sporv.png]

[Image: TM_094000_sporv.png]

[Image: TM_113068_sporv.png]

Comparison (top untouched, bottom regraded)
[Image: TM_comparison.jpg]

Screenshot comparisons:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/216696
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/216696

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Duration : 1 h 50 min
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Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
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Stream size : 353 MiB (3%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
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Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
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Duration : 1 h 50 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)
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Language : Italian
Default : No
Forced : No

Text #1
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Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
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Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : Yes

Text #2
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Stream size : 29.3 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : No
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Text #3
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Stream size : 876 Bytes (0%)
Language : Italian
Default : No
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  Predator 2 Widescreen 2.05:1 version
Posted by: Stamper - 2017-07-23, 10:28 PM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help - Replies (103)

Anyone knows if there is somewhere a print of Predator 2 for sale to check the format? Cos I think the movie was originaly 2.35:1 but always been 1.85:1 cropped on video. I'm certain I saw it on the screen in 2.05:1 or 2.35:1. All the trailers are about 2.35:1.

Back in 1990 some films like The Abyss were released on LD opened up due to perception that people wouldn't buy them on LD so tiny the image was in 2.35. I think this is what happened to Predator 2, but the format of the LD stuck after this and unlike The Abyss was never corrected.

Note that on the NTSC DVD as well as the LD you can see many times the microphones recording the actors on top of the image. The DVD is cropped a bit on the sides and extended on bottom when compared to the trailers and obviously opened a bit too much on top. It looks framed totally wrong.

I think the movie was 2.35:1 because the trailers all use clips from the first film, all reframed in 2.35:1 (including one shot not in the first film!).

Why would they reframe the first film footage to conform with the new one, if it wasn't 2.35:1? Since the first film was 1.85:1 and the home-video versions of Predator 2 are 1.85:1, then it would be logic that the trailers are 1.85:1. Except they are all in 2.35:1!

I have the NTSC SE DVD and it has the same framing as the BD, whereas the UK SE DVD looks to have all the horizontal info. I think it could be cool to reframe the UK DVD to the actual widescreen as shown originaly in theaters, using the trailers as reference to find the correct framing.

The Blu-ray is a piece of shit that reproduces the NTSC crap framing and is DNRed to death. Avoid.

And get ready for this, The widescreen VHS released in the UK in April 1998 had the very unusual aspect ratio of 2.05:1. This was the only release of the film to be framed in this ratio. If anyone can cap that VHS please post screencaps!

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  Van Helsing - tv series
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-07-23, 08:44 PM - Forum: Movies, TV shows and other - No Replies

OK, not one of the best or memorable series, but if you like The Walking Dead, and want something similar, you can check it. Do not expect a lot of originality here (I knew the exact final scene five episodes before the last one...); but it has some interesting twists here and there.

At least, after ordes of zombies, now we must front vampires instead! Wink

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  Brazilian guy meets FanRes
Posted by: diegorocha2007 - 2017-07-22, 12:44 AM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (4)

Hey people, what's up!

I just recently found this forum, and I normally don't post much on foruns but I read a lot Big Grin

I see this is a multicultural forum, are there any brazilians out there? Tongue

I have a project on my own involving Dragon Ball Z that I will someday continue (it's been on a limbo for a while)
When I do, I will definitely share with you! Blush

Well, I think it's enough for now, see ya! Wink

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  Wonder Woman (2017) [spoRv]
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-07-21, 12:38 PM - Forum: Released - Replies (17)

Wonder Woman (2017) [spoRv]
[Image: 69f1c6cdd1e8862b8eb55f3f68ce43b2.jpg]
Source: original IPTV KorSub rip
Video: 1080p (1920x800 2.40:1 active image) 23.976fps  AVC 6mbps (40mbps max)
Audio: AC-3 448kbps 5.1 English
Subs: hardcoded Korean, soft English
Chapters: no
Runtime: 2h21m23s
Notes on the source: Korean hardcoded subs, half "12" yellow logo appears sometimes for few seconds
Notes on the release: green blanked removed, contrast improved, two missing frames reinserted, brief shot added (2s), few subtitles removed (maybe 5%)

Screenshots:
[Image: WW_018971.jpg]

[Image: WW_072155.jpg]

[Image: WW_117204.jpg]

[Image: WW_136246.jpg]

Comparison (top untouched, bottom regraded)
[Image: WW_comparison.jpg]

Screenshot comparison: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/216411

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Language : English
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