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Where Eagles Dare English + German Dub w/ intermission |
Posted by: Stamper - 2017-04-10, 12:52 PM - Forum: Released
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Where Eagles Dare English + German Dub
I'm putting info on this project here, as it seems to have vanished from the surface of the web.
I just think it's interesting enough to have all the details archived in a thread.
so this is Where Eagles Dare (1968, English + German Dub) a project made by internet user Stéphane C., which mixes back the german parts in Where Eagles Dare, original english language track, to give the film the same feel as the french dub, and a much more suspensful, immersive experience than the original which have all the people speaking in english, which makes no sense.
Here are his notes:
Why I dubbed some parts in
German...
I grew up in France and always loved watching "Where Eagles Dare"
when it was on TV.
Of course, In France, the movie was dubbed in French when it was
released in 1969, as is the case with most foreign movies released
in France.
But what is very interesting and unique is that the French decided
to have the German speak German in the film: so they dubbed the
movie in French but added the German dubbed version when Germans
are supposed to speak German. That is how I had always watch this
movie and it made sense. The German language parts would are
subtitled in the rench version.
I was very surprised when I saw the original English version one
day and shocked to see everyone spoke English... Germans speak
English, wait what?
I was able to get my hand on a couple of European DVDs of the movie
and noticed that the French version is the only one that has this
feature. the Italian version has everyone speak Italian, same for
the Spanish version, and of course the German version...
I decided, since I had about 16 hours to lose, to try to make an
English version where germans speak German.
I used Adobe Autition to keep the original 5.1 English Track and
only dubbed the Center Channel when needed (see below for
timing)
I also added English subtitles for the German dubbed parts. Most
are the original English subtitles but a couple of them had to be
adapted to translate correctly the German dialogue.
Now most people will come back to me and say "How could you dub
Eastwood and Burton's voice, it sucks, etc.." Yes, I know the
difference between the original English and German dubbed is quite
noticable at time, but... Just consider this as an Art
project.
I decided to change slightly a couple of things from the French
version:
1. In the French version, Eastwood speaks French right at 0:38:22
after Burton says "I didn't get around to that. Thank you."
I thought that the voice tone difference was too much too switch
back right there to English plus the bartender was still around and
could hear them speak English...
2. In the French version, The colonel and Burton speaks French at
1:31:30 and 1:31:44 and also 1:31:51. It would be ok but again the
tone of voice is so different between the English and German that I
thought it'd be better to have the whole scene in German... plus I
am not sure German Major Wilner (in Italy) is supposed to
understand English.
The purists out there can always switch to audio track #2 if they
can't stand German dub.
Sound track #1 AC3 5.1 English + German dub (default track)
Sound track #2 AAC 5.1 English (Original version)
Subtitled are forced.
Stéphane C.
Timing where German dub occurs:
0:29:21 0:30:55 Colonel arrival
0:34:03 0:34:51 Bridge Crossing
0:35:22 0:35:25 Tavern
0:36:23 Two Beers
0:37:00 0:37:28 Tavern
0:37:38 0:38:24 Tavern
0:44:15 0:45:15 Tavern
0:46:04 0:46:25 Tavern
0:46:27 0:46:37 Tavern
0:47:06 0:48:24 Tavern + Cable car
0:49:16 0:49:35 Car
0:51:40 0:53:59 Castle Arrival
1:05:24 1:05:32 Captain Muller
1:17:13 allo
1:17:37 1:17:42 Talking
1:20:39 1:21:05 Phone
1:21:51 1:23:00 Gestapo
1:26:24 1:27:31 Gestapo
1:31:08 1:32:11 Phone
1:32:55 1:33:07 Gestapo
1:34:47 Gard!
1:35:55 1:38:03 Gestapo
1:42:39 1:42:45 Prison
1:49:29 Firefight
1:50:35 Firefight
1:51:42 Firefight
1:52:02 Firefight
2:09:46 2:10:06
2:16:06 Calling airport
2:17:07 2:17:11 on the phone
2:23:51 2:24:22 airplane calling airport
2:26:01 2:26:09 airplane calling airport
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Monsters Dark Territory |
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-04-10, 12:55 AM - Forum: Movies, TV shows and other
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First good things - there are some... CGI is quite good, overall production is quite good - you see actual chops and not cheap CGI ones, for examples.
Bad things? Almost everything else... bad acting, monsters are just an excuse and not the main theme (as the previous little gem, "Monsters"), weak story, slow and boring...
If you love monsters, creatures & co. and don't want to spend 2 hours to see maybe 3 minutes of them, avoid it at all cost... don't waste 2 hours of your life as I did (unless someone would pay you to do that!) - so, if you would do it anyway, I can say "you have been warned"!
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Face Off (TV show) |
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-04-08, 05:38 PM - Forum: Movies, TV shows and other
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If you are here, probably you like sci-fi, horror, fantasy movies; if so, you probably like monsters, aliens, and other creatures as well, right?
Well, Face Off is the show for you - a reality show where contestants fight to obtain the final prize, doing spectacular makeups on human models, like vampires, aliens, werewolves, deformed creatures and so on...
There are 11 seasons, for a grand total of more than 100 episodes; a lot to watch, I must admit, but fun overall... I don't watch many TV programs - apart movies and few series, and no reality shows, but this is the exception to the rule I'm happy to break.
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Deadpool |
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-04-08, 05:32 PM - Forum: Movies, TV shows and other
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I had not the occasion to watch it until today - maybe because I thought it was just a stupid movie...
Well, IT IS a stupid movie, but one of the few smart ones, don't know if you understand what I mean; OK, too much gratuitous bad words and jokes, but actually it is a nice superhero movie, with the usual chiches, like the bad guy, the beutiful chick, the good friend, a lot of action, killings, and some really nice touches - don't want to spoil on them, for the ones who hasn't watched it, yet.
I liked it A LOT more than Suicide Squad; so, if you like superheroes movies AND comedies, and you are not afraid to hear some (well, a lot of) bad words, go for it; you will get almost two hours full of action and laughter - and some are unexpected, told by one who watched maybe 10,000 movies in his life, so this thing is not happening so often, of course...
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Toshiba 55SV685 - mini retro review |
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-04-08, 05:14 PM - Forum: Everything else...
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The Toshiba SV series was released in 2009; it was a direct LED backlit LCD with local dimming, two sizes (46 and 55); model numbers were 46SV670 and 55SV670 for US models, and 46SV685 and 55SV685 for European models (probably Australian, too).
For a complete review, take a look here: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/toshiba-4...118163.htm
I add some info I gathered around the web in the latest days
- VA panel and LED backlight are from Samsung A950/A956 series, but Toshiba uses its own electronics
- LED zones: 64 for 46', 96 for 55' - some others say 176 zones for the 55'; probably 96 is the right figure (with around 1000 individual LEDs), as I had the Samsung LE55A956 for five years, and I did every possible imaginable tests!
- LED backlight never turns off, only greatly reduced - I should add that it's true in all modes, apart Dynamic, where the LEDs seems to be actually turned off, as the Samsung
From here on, I would talk about the European model 55SV685; apart the 100/120Hz and inputs difference with the US models, and the swivel pedestal and less LED zones in the 46', I think all the models should share the same features.
In comparison with the previous year model Samsung A956, which shares the same panel and LED backlight, the Toshiba has something more, and few things less...
more:
- Active Vision M200, which adds the backlight scanning to the 100Hz frame interpolation; image is more stable, with no visible artefacts
- more image tweaks - RGBYUV with three settings each, for example
- light sensor (with histogram)
- Dolby Volume
- an headphone jack, with separate volume level
- audio output
- a subwoofer output
- SD card input
- higher RMS audio power - but lacks subwoofers
- the glossy "glass" (that should be plexyglass, but I don't want to break it to discover it) over the screen, that helps to get a better contrast AND protect the panel
less:
- in the not-pitch-black LED backlit modes, even if black level is really low (and eventual blooming may be less), it lacks the "true-black-wow" factor - that is achieved using the Dynamic mode, though
- Samsung had few useless features like cooking receipts, simple games, and digital frame with some preinstalled images; Toshiba has just one image that can be used as frame, but you could load your own!
- it misses the "jingle" when you switch it off - it helped me some time, when I finished to watch a movie and the screen was black (I mean: the same as when switched off) to remind me the TV was on or off...
- PIP - even if it was limited to analog inputs
Considering this design is almost 8 years old, I'm very happy with this TV; I cried when I was forced to say goodbye to my beloved A956 (which couldn't be fit, sadly), and I tried to find an used one for months; then, I grabbed this one, that could be considered its stepbrother somehow...
Yep, it is thick, the bezel is huge, is not a smart TV, nor it's 3D, or 4K (properly, UHD) but hey, it was an high-end HDTV and, even nowadays, it's still great; black level is better than many PDPs, almost on par with an OLED; blooming is really limited and you would notice in very few occasions, more if watch it off axis; audio is very good (to be a TV, of course), and, despite the fact is tick and large, its design is really nice!
Add to this it uses a VA panel, that is 10 bit, and internal processing is 14 bit... still not bad nowadays!
Can't say it's better than a PDP, but sadly they are out of the market now, and the best used ones still command premium prices, plus it would be better to avoid to use them as PC monitor; OLEDs is a promising technology, but still expensive, and with few defects - lower "life" and brightness, screen door effect - that probably would be cured in the next years.
So, if you are planning to not buy an OLED, but instead an LCD, take a chance to watch similar models with Edge and Direct LED backlight, maybe you would be amazed how different could be when compared directly. Or, if you can find an used Direct LED TV (with Local Dimming!) at a good price, grab it!
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general thoughts on color grading |
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-04-07, 02:03 PM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases
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Again? Yep! 
I think there is a general consensus that, using a negative as master, then regrade it digitally, is not possible to achieve the same color fidelity than, for example, using an interpositive (or a release print).
Of course, using the negative would retain the best resolution possible (6K or maybe also 8K).
The best choice, IMHO, would be to use the negative for the luma, and an interpositive (or several release prints, median'ed and/or averaged) for chroma.
Am I wrong? If not, why don't they do that? Colors would be closest to the theatrical prints, and I'm pretty sure it will be easier than color grading digitally the negative - don't know how much would it cost to scan both negative and interpositive, but I don't think would cost much than the negative scan + all that time spent to regrade it (with imperfect results, too)...
Opinions?
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NNEDI for FFMPEG |
Posted by: Koopa Luath - 2017-04-06, 01:26 PM - Forum: Converting, encoding, authoring
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What is the best way to use FFMPEG to upconvert a 480p file (either native or converted from 480i using the Yadif filter) to 1080p with the NNEDI filter? Because I was thinking of using it for my projects, along with Valeyard's Motion-Adaptive script, both as necessary.
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Alien saga [Fundamental Collection] |
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-04-05, 11:39 PM - Forum: In progress
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Time to announce the mysterious first four titles of the Fundamental Collection... they are, of course: - Alien
- Aliens
- Alien³
- Alien: Resurrection
Projects consist mainly in the color regrade of the high definition source, using laserdiscs as color references; usual five languages and subtitles would be added.
Alien
I used the D-Theater as main source, and BD as second source, because the D-Theater was the Director’s Cut. Video is a bit wider than BD, and, after a careful cleaning, it retains more details, too. I used the PAL UK laserdisc as it used a distinctly different master; now, for example, the Ash head scene is green, and should be closer to the film colors.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/205713
as you can see, most of the shots have a wider image in comparison to the BD, except the ones shorter or not present in the theatrical cut
Aliens
BD as the only source, PAL UK laserdisc as color reference; as the LD was the Special Edition, I did all the needed steps to put it in sync with the theatrical cut; I have decided to use a brief (3s) shot from laserdisc, because is different from BD.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/205714
no more “mono-green-tint” now!
Alien³
BD as the only source, PAL UK laserdisc as color reference; LD colors are warmer and they seems to be color accurate - for example, it’s still blue out of the window in the second scene in Andrews’ office, as in the first one, while in the BD it’s greyish; also, the slight pink shift present in the BD is not there in the LD.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/205715
pink tint gone
Alien: Resurrection
BD as the only source, DTS NTSC US laserdisc as color reference; it seems this laserdisc, as well as the THX AC3 and earlier DVD, used a silver retention processed print as source or as color reference; colors are warmer, and no sign of the quite heavy pink shift present in the BD.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/205716
pink tint gone as well; increased contrast, and color variations are fixed - note for example the water in the 5th row and Call’s skin in the 6th one
Note: all versions are the theatrical cuts.
Status: all video lossless encoded; waiting to obtain the missing foreign tracks to calculate the right bitrate for the lossy encodes.
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Waterworld (1995) [Fundamental Collection™ #009] |
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-04-05, 09:51 PM - Forum: Released
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Waterworld (1995) [Fundamental Collection™ #009]
![[Image: WW_cover.jpg]](https://s27.postimg.cc/m7r2hpowj/WW_cover.jpg)
From the back cover: “At the present day, the best version of the movie was the HD-DVD. But the overall quality was not exceptional; even if grain level was better than subsequent Blu-ray editions, colors are wrong, and the noise floor was a bit too high.
With this version, the video was slightly denoised, and a proper grain plate from real 35mm film was added; the same master used for the laserdisc, known to be very close to the theatrical colors, here was used to regrade the video, and get rid also of that nasty pink shift.
English main audio track is the DTS 5.1 taken directly from the DTS Cinema track; French, Italian, Spanish and German 5.1 Dolby Digital tracks are included.
Six subtitles tracks are included as well: English, French, German, Italian and Spanish, plus the English SDH.”
Technical data
Format:
Blu-ray (BD-25)
Video:
1080p High-Definition
widescreen 1.85:1 original aspect ratio
framerate 23.976fps
AVC encoded 19mpbs avg bitrate, 38mpbs max
Audio:
DTS 5.1: English
DD 5.1: French, German, Italian, Spanish
Subtitles:
Full: English, French, German, Italian, Spanish, SDH: English
Notes:
2K master from negative for main video; LD master from interpositive used as color reference using our acclaimed technique ColourMatch™
Release date: 2017-04-05
Covers and disc label:
https://s21.postimg.cc/eyrd6lzaf/Waterwo..._cover.jpg
https://s21.postimg.cc/nsi9npm93/Waterwo..._cover.jpg
https://s21.postimg.cc/4ywgqpo13/Waterwo..._label.jpg
Comparison "at a glance":
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/205702
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The Arrival (1996) [Fundamental Collection™ #008] |
Posted by: spoRv - 2017-04-05, 03:04 PM - Forum: Released
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The Arrival (1996) [Fundamental Collection™ #008]
From the back cover: "Many fans of the movie noted that the Blu-ray edition of The Arrival has some issues with color & contrast. Also, due to excessive digital noise reduction, there's a lack of grain.
For this project, the video track of the Blu-ray was used. Contrast and colors were fine tuned thanks to the master used for the DVD, and, finally, a proper grain plate from real 35mm film was added.
English main audio track is the DTS-HD MA 7.1 24 bit, plus an extra track in Dolby Digital 5.1 from the same master used for the Special Edition laserdisc; French, Italian, Spanish 5.1 and German 2.0 Dolby Digital tracks are included; there is also a commentary track not found in any other DVD or BD.
Five subtitles tracks are included as well: English, French, German, Italian and Spanish."
Screenshot comparison: top Blu-ray, bottom Fundamental Collection
Technical data
Format:
Blu-ray (BD-25)
Video:
1080p High-Definition
widescreen 1.85:1 original aspect ratio
framerate 23.976fps
AVC encoded 18mpbs avg bitrate, 37mpbs max
Audio:
DTS-HD MA 7.1: ENG
DD 5.1: FRE, ITA, SPA
DD 2.0: GER
bonus: ENG commentary
Subtitles:
Full: English, French, German, Italian, Spanish
Notes:
2K master from negative for main video;
DVD master from interpositive used for color correction
Release date: 2017-04-01
Covers and disc label:
https://s29.postimg.cc/ersl6eucn/The_Arr...side_c.jpg
https://s29.postimg.cc/b6wpn6pt3/The_Arr...ide_co.jpg
https://s29.postimg.cc/x4t6gz4tj/The_Arr...c_labe.jpg
Comparison "at a glance":
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/205656
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