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[Request] Hardcore Open-Matte |
Posted by: FrankT - 2015-10-12, 12:33 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help
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When comparing stills from a widescreen and a fullscreen shot from Hardcore, I found that it was shot as an open-matte movie, with the top and bottom chopped from the DVD widescreen release. I made a quick comparison based on the limited sources I have.
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I'm told that the whole picture was restored for the videos and cable un-matted showings. Is there a possibility of a fan-res being assembled from these?
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The Sword in the Stone (1963) - 1080p Open-Matte BD |
Posted by: jerryshadoe - 2015-10-08, 05:25 AM - Forum: In progress
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Ok, so I started working on this back in early August and thought it would take me two-three weeks to complete, LOL
As usual, the process dragged itself out and I'm just now finishing assembling the video for this, but the actual BD release is still a little bit away, as I need to finish the other parts of the disc first since this will be my first entry in the "Shadoe Presents: The Vintage Disney Channel Throwback Collection."
I can hear some of you asking, "Why is this project needed?" and the answer is simple: the old itunes transfer is nice but is of low bitrate, grainless, has some macro-blocking and is a little soft (due to compression) and the 1080i HDTV transfer, although much better quality and some grain retention, has a logo
What most people don't know though, is that there are actually TWO different 1080i captures, each with the logo in a different part on-screen. Let me demonstrate with some quick screenshot I just took (apparently one frame off, LOL):
The "common" 1080i HDTV transfer (easily found on Russian trackers)
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The "rare" 1080i HDTV transfer (which I was only able to find a 720p rip of on a Vietnamese forum)
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As you can see, the logo is in a much different spot, but (as you can see in this quick 50/50 overlay) there is still a very small area of overlap:
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I realized that trying to run any delogo script on this once I have only that small area of overlap will be much easier and produce better results than if I was trying to run any delogo script on just the "common" 1080i transfer. So, I upscaled the 720p rip back to 1080p using SuperResolution, regrained it slightly (to match the level of grain in the 1080i), de-interlaced the 1080i transfer and slowed it back down from 25fps to 23.976fps and "went to work" on it in Sony Vegas. Once I had most of the logo gone, except for that small area where the overlap is, I rendered it to a 1080p lags file that I loaded into avisynth, where I ran it through a few different delogo plugins (at different settings) until I found a "happy medium." The result was decent, but I noticed (as to be expected) that there were still some artifacts here and there. Was NOT happy with the results, even though most people wouldn't notice it, it's one of those things that once seen can never be unseen.
So, I kinda had to go "back to the drawing board." I decided to take the itunes transfer, regrained it to match the level of grain present in the 1080i source and then I overlayed the source on top of my "delogoed" footage. Upon doing this, I realized that there is a little bit of extra picture on the sides of the HDTV caps (both are identical in terms of framing) BUT there is a little bit of extra picture on the top and bottom of the itunes capture. I wanted to include all of this "extra" picture in the final render, so I aligned everything (the itunes cap is slightly squeezed horizontally compared to the HDTV) tried to do an accurate color-match of the itunes to the HDTV, (they are really, really close, but not the same and had to be adjusted [mainly for brightness/contrast] on a scene by scene basis) applied a "slight touch extra" grain on top of the entire thing and then rendered out the entire project. The result is beautiful but the "extra" image (especially on bottom) doesn't always match as, at times, is slightly darker than the rest of screen. I ran this through multiple tests (where I "wasted" nearly two weeks) and this is the best I can do. When viewed on my 1080p 52" HDTV, this render looks amazing and I am happy with it. BUT, there may be those of you that will dislike the mis-match and might suggest that I just crop off that part, which I "technically" could do and then we would have the best copy available of this film. This I will leave up to you fine people but for now, here's a sample containing three minutes of footage with a downmixed to stereo audio track (from ~ 5th minute to ~ 8th minute) (it's 537MB because this is demuxed from my "final for BD" encode to show the full video quality)
Quote:https://mega.nz/#!MIgmwRTb!M-2cI02UMX6gp...jGVs0IkDuM
link will expire 30 days AFTER release of project
I'm sure there will also be some that will complain about the "little black square boxes" in the corners where the image in non-existent due to the "combining" of the "extra" image on sides on HDTV and "extra" image on top and bottom of the itunes copy. As far as I'm concerned, they are very small, not distracting, and I like the effect but that's just me and YMMV
I will post screenshots comparing "my render," the "common" 1080i HDTV, and the old 1080p itunes transfer at the end of the post
Now, on to the audio that will be included. The video is timed to the Bluray, to make the importing of most audio tracks easy, but there are a few "extras," as well. Unfortunately, since the first edition PAL DVDs back in 1999, the original English mono audio track is not available. HOWEVER, two days ago, a friend of mine shared the audio track from that DVD with me. He doesn't have the disc anymore and, unfortunately, around the 20th second, there is a 170ms "glitch" in the audio that results in that 170ms being silent. Other than that, the track is, in fact, an original mono mix. I did some tests, where I downmixed the upmixed audio track from DVD and from BD to a mono track and the resulting audio tracks were much different from the DVD sourced mono track. It sounds different, fuller, and I like it. I just have to fix that glitch and this will be a nice inclusion. I also have, thanx to my Polish homeboy "Niszczyciel" (which translates to "Destroyer") who lives in Japan, the original mono track captured from the JP LD. Not sure which disc (waiting on response from him about origins) and it's an ANALOG capture (due to technical limitations of his hardware) but it's a fantastic addition to the project. I am in the process of syncing it and it's weird because the waveform is waaaaaaay different than the mono from DVD but it seems to be the exact same mix and in no way sounds or looks like the downmixed to mono upmix. Can post screenshot of the waveform upon request
So, I will include the BD upmix in English, the original mono from DVD, the original mono from JP LD, and then the following:
- Arabic 2ch AC3
- Bulgarian 2ch AC3
- Chinese Mandarin 2ch AC3
- Dutch 5.1 AC3
- French 5.1 AC3
- German 5.1 AC3
- Greek 5.1 AC3
- Hindi 2ch AC3
- Hungarian 2ch AC3
- Italian 5.1 AC3
- Polish 2ch AC3
- Portuguese (PT) 2ch AC3 & 5.1 AC3
- Portuguese (BR) 2ch AC3
- Romanian 2ch AC3
- Russian 2ch AC3
- Spanish (Castellano) 5.1 AC3
- Spanish (Latino) 2ch AC3
- Swedish 2ch AC3
- Ukrainian 2ch AC3
Some of the audio is sourced from BDs, some from NSTC/PAL DVD (need to do the correction for speed and pitch on the PAL releases, of course) and some are sourced from HDTVrips where someone synced the audio from unknown sources. The Chinese and Hindi are sourced from VCDs. These are not all synced yet. I will also include subtitles. If there are any languages not listed that any user would like me to include, if they can supply the audio track, I'm happy to sync it and include it as well
As far as the "extras" and the final presentation of this first film within an Vintage Disney Channel "setting" is concerned, I'm still working on that and will post more as that part is closer to completion
Now, on to the screenshots.... (top-my encode/middle-"common" 1080i HDTV/bottom-old 1080p itunes):
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Any comments are welcome
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Spartacus Criterion LD Movie Audio & Audio Commentary |
Posted by: bendermac - 2015-10-08, 03:17 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help
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The new 4K Mastered BD is out and it looks awesome. But Universal couldn't leave the audio alone
and added a 7.1 mix to it. So I suggest that we add the audio from the Criterion LD and also include
the audio commentary from it.
Anyone may have said LaserDisc and can capture the audio tracks?
If we have no luck getting the audio from the CC-LD, I can provide the audio from the CC-DVD.
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Color correction - how to do it easiest way? |
Posted by: Colek - 2015-10-06, 11:43 PM - Forum: Audio and video editing
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Hello,
I have one, awfully red tinted source which is only HD existing source of the movie. Now, I have few DVDs and TV captures I could use for color matching, but I could only use these as reference (as the HD source is more 'open' than DVDs in regards to aspect ratio, maybe it's even Open Matte), because I could not just merge chroma over these. In my opinion, one of TV captures has best colors, but it also has the TV logo.
I am using AviSynth for most of the work on source file, but I want to just make one script that would do all the work I want over the movie. So what is the best way to make color correction on that?
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Shadoe Presents: The Vintage Disney Channel Throwback Collection |
Posted by: jerryshadoe - 2015-10-06, 06:02 PM - Forum: In progress
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Some of you might be thinking, "WTF?" so let me explain my little project, some of it's "genesis" story and what people can look forward to seeing in the future as a part of this collection.
First things first, I would like to just say "THANK YOU" to those of you that I leaked some of the info about this project to, that proved they are trustworthy and didn't steal the idea or "spill the beans" about it. Again, thanx guys
Ok, now that I got that out of the way, I am super freaking excited about this series of projects!
I'm sure a lot of you from the US, that are in my age category, remember the awesome days when The Disney Channel was actually a fantastic channel to have. Yes, I'm talking the 80s through about 1992-ish, when The Disney Channel was a premium channel that showed lots of cartoons, westerns, musicals, great b&w films, great educational stuff, live shows, had great series and made-for-tv movies, family/kid/adult films on a regular basis and was a joy to watch.
I have been collecting everything I can find that is from that era, some from youtube, some from caps of VHS tapes that people have shared with me and have built up a huge library of stuff. I have been wondering for a while now how to assemble it for release and then I got this cool idea, "What if I work on all the Disney films I would like to have proper 1080p BD releases of (that aren't available commercially or have atrocious releases) AND insert them into a 'block of vintage Disney Channel programming" that I have assembled from the stuff I have?"
The premise is simple: each "feature film" will be after about 30-45 minutes of Vintage Disney Channel bumpers, commercials, AND programming such as "Good Morning, Mickey!" (which I actually have a digital source of from broadcasts in 2010 in the Ukraine - so waaaaay better than any VHS-rip) and "Donald Duck Presents" (same thing with the intro) and I can insert 1080p copies of the shorts there (specific to the theme of the "feature film") and maybe some other stuff. Use the "Disney Channel" station IDs (have a "mass" of those) and "Feature Presentation" stuff. Possibly also, maybe, use some of the "Wonderful World of Disney" intros (especially the one with wizard mickey being animated in beginning before he shoots of the bottle into an orange background of stuff) or the "Disney Sunday Movie" intro, since they are so awesome and nostalgic of those times :hearts: :victory:
I am open to suggestions or ANY additional sources (the more the better in this case, as some material is only useable after overlaying multiple sources to create a "best" image)
The "feature films" are already all being worked on by me, are in various stages of progress and will have their own threads when each is close to completion...
Expect the titles to slowly start trickling in on this thread
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Hailing from OT.com |
Posted by: FrankT - 2015-10-03, 11:06 AM - Forum: Presentation
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Having gotten a referral to this place, I thought I'd check in, see what goes on. I have... a few things going on on the side, you know? Uh.... I don't know what else to say.
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The Terminator (1984) Chace "Fake Stereo" LD Analog |
Posted by: jerryshadoe - 2015-10-02, 07:39 AM - Forum: Released
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Ok, so I was looking at this thread, where PDB references an original thread over on OT, where this audio mix was mentioned. From what I read in that thread, MrBrown owns this laserdisc which is the Thorn/EMI version that has the "famous" Chace fake stereo audio which, even though NTSC, has typical PAL speed-up. Apparently, MrBrown captured the audio (although it may have been Stamper, correct me if I'm wrong) and then Stamper and DoomBot (both in separate PMs sent me the same links) sent me the unsynced audio. What I received is an AC3 file that has a bitrate of 224kbps. The audio track is in fact a stereo track, which means that the lddb entry about this disc containing a mono analog track is incorrect, as it is in fact an analog stereo track.
After using the "change speed" function in Audacity (which corrects speed AND pitch) applying the same settings as I always do when slowing down PAL audio to sync with NTSC material, the audio nearly automatically aligned with the LD PCM audio track that's posted here (which is synced to the 2013 remastered BD edition)
In process of going through the whole thing right now, as I still have to make sure it stays in-sync (already noticed a couple "extra frames worth of audio" around a couple scene changes) but this looks like it will be relatively straight-forward. Then I have to re-sync it at the side change, as well. The first thing I noticed about this capture, is that the audio is clipped at some points throughout the entire thing. Wondering if this is due to input levels being too high when capturing or whether this is a problem with the source just being clipped. Another thing I noticed is that there is a rather large noise plain. In the beginning, it was a little distracting and then gets better. Wondering also if I should post two different versions once I have it synced: one that is just a straight sync and one that is a synced and "cleaned" (read filtered, LOL) version.. ???
Depending on how much my daughters will distract me while I'm working on this, it shouldn't take me long to finish it
EDIT: Upon very careful inspection of this track, it is in fact a dual MONO track and the "fake stereo" is a misnomer. The mix is different in volume of sfx and dialog (seems much more pronounced) and, at times the sfx are timed +/-10ms different, plus there is some extra dialog heard here and there in the background (in the police station mainly) but it is definitely NOT a stereo mix, even a fake one. On numerous occasions I have seen fake stereo achieved by delaying the right track (in reference to the left one) by 5 to 10 ms, but this is not the case here. Also, the waveform for both channels is identical. Therefore, this LD is merely a different version of a mono mix
I am about have done with the sync now and am going to sleep. When I wake up, I should be able to finish it up before the day ends, so expect to see this available soon
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