I'm likely to move the active Project Threepio thread from OT.com to FanRes in the near future. Since it's not a preservation per se, but supplemental material for specific preservations, which subforum would it work best in?

Yeah, and this probably isn't even the best subforum for this question either. I just don't want to mess with whatever organizational system is already in place.

The following is a list of members of this community and their general locations, that are willing to help with bit-perfect capturing of Laserdisc audio:

- (?)Buster D - Japan - (NTSC)

- Lil Brutto - Vancouver, BC, Canada - (NTSC)

- Colek - Poland (NTSC & PAL)

- schorman - Miami, FL, US (NTSC)

- bendermac - Germany

...this list is a work in progress

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Can members that are willing to help with this, please respond and I will update the list?

Hello,

This has been brought up before, but the 20th Anniversary remix of Grease is utterly butchered, especially in the music. A lot of additional reverb, sound effects that are almost louder than the music, and it's just generally an overproduced mess.

For most films, it'd be easy to obtain PCM Dolby Stereo from laserdisc. Not so with Grease. You see, it only ever had an analog release in the U.S.

Supposedly, there was a stealth digital reissue, under the same catalog number, but SilverWook and I have come to the conclusion that the person who added this info to LDDB was mistaken, because we've acquired at least one copy that claimed to be digital, but it was just analog. The best copy we have is from the 1990 hi-fi VHS. (The theoretical PCM LD would probably have used the same master?)

There are only two known releases that do have the 1978 English mix in PCM: A Japanese reissue from the 90s, and a Dutch release. The Japanese one is exceedingly rare, so I'd like to put out a request: Can anyone obtain the Dutch disc, and do a bit-perfect transfer? It would just need a 4% slowdown to be able to do the sync work. (Then, the theatrical version could be preserved by taking the 2.35 Paramount logo from another contemporaneous release and putting it back at the head/tail to replace the modern logos.)

Here's the LDDB listing: http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/34199/21.04.002/Grease

Is there a way to remove or mitigate laserdisc noise in a capture? I'm trying to avoid using pure noise reduction since that would cut into the grain also.

Hello lads,

Using ESI Juli@ and Pioneer LD-4300D I ripped audio from Japanese Laserdisc of Jackie Chan's First Strike @ 32-bit/96kHz.

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Now, I have no experience in working with audio, but I would want to get the best out of this. This is already an improvement to the DVD, but I was wondering if there is anything else that can be done here for this. As you can see it is a bit quiet, would using Normalize in Audacity do the job?

Hello again, I was curious if anyone has considered preserving the audio for Frankenstein (1931). For starters I am quite displeased with the audio mix on the BluRay since IMO it is a bit flat and muffled. Also theres portions of the sound track missing. This is also the mix used on every DVD release since 2004.

About two years ago I had sent someone the audio tracks from the VHS' of Dracula and Frankenstein which he was going to sync up to the BD. I messaged him a few times and he said he was working on it and finally said it would be ready by Halloween 2014. As far as I know the project wasnt completed and I havent heard from him since (if you the one Im speaking of are reading this, understand Im not calling you out since I know people get sidetracked with other projects). 

Which brings me to here. After doing some comparisons, I realized that my 1991 VHS copy while a bit hissy sounds crisper than the BD. However the VHS may not be the best source. The copy was only viewed once or twice by the time it was digitized so it still came out pretty good but some scenes may have some VHS crackle and there was one minor glitch in one scene which actually isnt all that noticeable but might stand out when trying to sync to the BD. I noticed that the VHS is actually going at a somewhat faster pace than the BD. The exact fps I do not know. I believe the guy who was working on this said he was having a bit difficulty with the syncing. Please keep in mind Im no expert when it comes to syncing audio tracks which is why I seek everyones help.

So perhaps another source is in order. Does anyone by any chance have the 1987 'restored' Laserdisc and might consider digitizing it? Since the 1987 'restored' VHS uses the same print as the 1991 VHS, maybe the Laserdisc would be the best source. A headsup though. This 'restored' print is missing the line 'Now I know what it feels like to be God', a line that was restored circa 1999 and hence on the BD. Whether to restore this line to the Laserdisc mix or just leave the line censored will have to be discussed.

Anyways below are two comparison videos I made some 2-3 years ago. The first I wanted to point out that I feel the VHS sounds crisper while the other points out the missing bits. Leave some comments and hopefully we can make something of this. Understand that I respect all opinions so lets be on the same page everyone.

https://vimeo.com/56206935

https://vimeo.com/57318682

This is my first real thread so bare with me. I was curious if anyone has considered preserving the mono mix for Jaws from the 1995 Laserdisc. Im asking cause I noticed some things are more audible on my 1995 VHS then in the mono mix that accompanies the current releases. This includes Cassidy burping at the end of the opening scene and Brody's scream when the rigging holding the shark cage comes apart. Now granted Ive never seen a movie on Laserdisc so I actually dont know how it sounds. Im just guessing based on the VHS. This is also another reason i suggested the 1995 Laserdisc since most pre1995 releases have a different song being played in the beach scene where the kid on the raft is killed. Anyways just a suggestion. A few things about the mono mix on the current releases. Im actually quite happy with the mono mix from the 2005 DVD. I dont have the BluRay but I do have the 2012 DVD. The mono mix on that DVD is mostly identical to the 2005 mix. However the 2005 mix I noticed is slightly crisper and the 2012 mix has a few 'flaws'. This includes some sound effects being about a split second out of sync in the scene where the tiger shark is cut open and also the sound of the engine exploding is in the wrong pitch.

Hello everyone. My name is Christopher and its a great privilege for me to be part of this forum. Im a huge supporter of preservation so Im intrigued by online communities like this and originaltrilogy.com, the latter of which Im also a member of. I hope to see some interesting projects and hopefully contribute to some as well. Any questions feel free to ask. Thank you everyone. 

The Good, the Bad and The Ugly (International Cut v1.0)

Project Info:

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (TGTBATU) is my favorite film of all time and over the weekend I had a desire to watch the old International Cut/US Theatrical Cut. So, I popped in the 98 DVD and as I was watching, I lamented the fact it wasn't in HD.

So I decided to assemble the IC/TC so I could watch it in HD. I pulled out my old work, re-cutting the 4K to the IC/TC while re-grading to the Mondo's (the Italian Blu-ray restoration) colors. I wanted to use the 4K since it had the best detail and grain but in getting out the old files, I remember why I abandoned it. The 4K's picture is bad all around. Its not just the colors but the contrast, gamma, shadows, highlights....basically everything. So I went back to the Mondo and decided to use that as the main source. Although it has less detail then the 4K, the colors are vastly superior. The hard part, the audio, was already taken care by thehutt on the OT. He took his 4K mono soundtrack and synced it to the Mondo. That gave me an audio base to work with.

There is one problem. What cut represents the IC/TC? The 98 DVD/LD is itself a restoration of the film. Lil Brutto (Fanres' TGTBATU expert) found out in fact the 93 LD cut is in fact the truest version of the IC/TC.  Its shorter then the 98 version (itself a restoration), missing shots here and there. For example, close-ups of the bandits in the beginning, shots of Angel Eyes eating, shots from Tuco's gang sneaking up the stairs, shots from the Blondie hanging scene, shots from Tuco's bath, etc.

(I'll follow up this post with a cut list)

So the goal it to quickly throw together the 93 IC/TC using the Mondo, 4K and old Extended Edition BD and have it be a stop gap till the better TGTBATU project is released.

Video:
The Italian transfer from the Mondo BD cut down to sync with the 1993 laserdisc of the International/US Theatrical cut. Additional parts from the US 4K and older Extended Edition BD.

Audio:
The mono soundtrack from the 1993 laserdisc in PCM 2.0 format.

Pics:
MKV Pics (Final)


Thanks
Lil Brutto: for information on the various cuts and additional soundtracks
thehutt: for his original English audio sync to the Mondo.
Chewtobacco: for advice and additional video

I'm trying to think, where was that one site where you could buy Blu-ray discs separate from their bigger box-set releases? I think it was called iDisc or something, but that can't be right...